Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > General Kayak Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-21-2020, 08:39 AM   #1
chris138
donkey roper
 
chris138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific Beach
Posts: 862
Tackle and Tactics | Targeting YT and WSB

Tackle and Tactics | Targeting YT and WSB

If you are new to this forum, or new to kayak fishing in general, I think this video will help you to learn how we fish for these trophy Yellowtail and White Seabass. Not giving away any mindblowing secrets here, just the basics of how to use your gear to get your first YT.

I didn't hook a YT in this video, but I guarantee you if you commit to fishing like this and don't get distracted by other species, you will get your first YT this summer! Cheers!



chris138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 12:59 PM   #2
SoCalEDC
Senior Member
 
SoCalEDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Rancho Cucamonga
Posts: 249
Yes. gonna burn this onto a dvd and store it somewhere safe so it never gets lost lol.
__________________
Inland, willing to travel for fish
IG: @blackflag_fishing
SoCalEDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 07:14 PM   #3
Udine219
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 86
Very Nice
Udine219 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 07:34 PM   #4
matthew7!
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 92
Great video


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
matthew7! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 08:06 PM   #5
blitzburgh
Senior Member
 
blitzburgh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Menifee
Posts: 2,463
Another cool video!
__________________
”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe
blitzburgh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 08:38 PM   #6
RK
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 734
Nice vid Chris mark at 80 was clearly a 90 pound white seabass
RK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2020, 12:42 PM   #7
TJones
Senior Member
 
TJones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,298
Need pointers

I have some general ideas of what to and not to do, but hit 6 seconds on a PA is another animal. Would love to see you film some of that. I know it would be risky with camera sticking straight up from deck. No chesty strap or head strap?
TJones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2020, 05:25 PM   #8
fishkiller951
Junior
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 12
Great video. Thanks. Still trying to work up the balls to go launch there.
fishkiller951 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2020, 01:15 PM   #9
ProfessorLongArms
Senior Member
 
ProfessorLongArms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 310
Awesome video as usual. I'm totally grabbing one of those tactical vest mounts for my gopro. that's pretty awesome.

A couple of questions for you- I'd like to understand the reverse dropper loop better...

I'd imagine the key benefit to a reverse dropper is convenience. Tie a hook, tie a spider hitch, and you're done, *and* if you're using a big mono topshot, you've got plenty of line to spare to keep cutting and retying rather than having to tie more

I've never tied one. Always done a 3 way rig, which is basically the same thing with a swivel where the spider hitch goes.

One thing I'm not crazy about with the three way rig is that I usually need to make one up the night before, and have a backup in case it breaks off.

Even with the swivel (I tend to use the ones like this ) I have a big issue with twisting. Sometimes I'll pull my bait up and there are 12-20 plus twists in the line and it's pulled the fish in tight to the weight line.

Is this a problem at all with a reverse dropper?
ProfessorLongArms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2020, 02:22 PM   #10
YakDout
Brandon
 
YakDout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,313
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms View Post
Awesome video as usual. I'm totally grabbing one of those tactical vest mounts for my gopro. that's pretty awesome.

A couple of questions for you- I'd like to understand the reverse dropper loop better...

I'd imagine the key benefit to a reverse dropper is convenience. Tie a hook, tie a spider hitch, and you're done, *and* if you're using a big mono topshot, you've got plenty of line to spare to keep cutting and retying rather than having to tie more

I've never tied one. Always done a 3 way rig, which is basically the same thing with a swivel where the spider hitch goes.

One thing I'm not crazy about with the three way rig is that I usually need to make one up the night before, and have a backup in case it breaks off.

Even with the swivel (I tend to use the ones like this ) I have a big issue with twisting. Sometimes I'll pull my bait up and there are 12-20 plus twists in the line and it's pulled the fish in tight to the weight line.

Is this a problem at all with a reverse dropper?

With both the 3 way swivel and knot for dropper loop setup one thing that helps is keep the tag end for your weight very short. And dropping it slow if there’s no current or wind. 4-5’ for tag end for hook


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
YakDout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2020, 09:01 PM   #11
chris138
donkey roper
 
chris138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific Beach
Posts: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms View Post

I'd imagine the key benefit to a reverse dropper is convenience. Tie a hook, tie a spider hitch, and you're done, *and* if you're using a big mono topshot, you've got plenty of line to spare to keep cutting and retying rather than having to tie more
In my opinion the biggest advantage is strength. Between me and the fish there are 2 knots... a spider hitch and a palomar which are both insanely strong. with a 3 way swivel its just more knots, not to mention the swivel can fail.

But you're right about being able to retie quickly. I can rig one up in 2 minutes. Especially when you hook a fish that finds structure and it nicks your line, you gotta swap it out.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms View Post

Even with the swivel (I tend to use the ones like this ) I have a big issue with twisting. Sometimes I'll pull my bait up and there are 12-20 plus twists in the line and it's pulled the fish in tight to the weight line.

Is this a problem at all with a reverse dropper?
Not really. Drop it fast, reel it up slow. It will will only be an issue when there is zero current. This is one of the situations where I *might* consider using a regular DL with a greenback.
chris138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2020, 09:09 PM   #12
chris138
donkey roper
 
chris138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific Beach
Posts: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJones View Post
I have some general ideas of what to and not to do, but hit 6 seconds on a PA is another animal. Would love to see you film some of that. I know it would be risky with camera sticking straight up from deck. No chesty strap or head strap?
You are talking about the launch I assume? ya I have some video of me almost biffing it but the light is so low in the early morning the video looks like crap. I am not an expert on hobie launching by any means. But I can tell you i really take my time waiting for the lull in the sets.

I will say this, the biggest issue with the PA in the surf (on the launch anyway) is that the deck fills up with water, then you list to one side.

I thought it would be a real advantage to have a neoprene splash skirt over the fore-deck, just to shed the bulk of the wash from the wave. After you launch you would just stash the skirt in the front hatch.
chris138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2020, 09:12 PM   #13
chris138
donkey roper
 
chris138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific Beach
Posts: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by YakDout View Post
With both the 3 way swivel and knot for dropper loop setup one thing that helps is keep the tag end for your weight very short. And dropping it slow if there’s no current or wind. 4-5’ for tag end for hook

+1 on this

12" or less on the loop with the weight.

I say drop it fast when its a big juicy greenback, or you have fast moving marks. Slow drop for sardines or smaller spanish.
chris138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.