Halibut Fishing Near Offshore Tips Needed - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

YakHanded · 03-22-2018, 08:59 AM

Can almost bet on bait hanging out near the red can at DP headlands.. if you get desperate just troll the sabiki around outside it and you will catch a few baits.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-22-2018, 10:53 AM

Before we have some experience catching bait, it might not be so easy as some of the pros here make it sound. "Easy peasy" might be an overstatement. Not having live bait when we want it kind of sucks.

If we do it wrong, it's easy to catch nothing.

SOME MORE TIPS for making bait that I've learned in La Jolla, Mission Bay and San Diego Bay. I am not familiar with Newport or Dana Point.

The size of the sabiki hook makes a difference. Not too big seems to be better, IMO.

Some people use old sabiki's until the hooks break off, but a fresh sabiki is exceptionally "sticky."

I find the cheap no-name sabiki's on sale at Squidco for a couple dollars work just as well as the name brand sabiki's for 3x the price.

I tend to catch bait much easier at first light. It seems to be more abundant and active at that time. For whatever reasons, some areas I pass my kayak through tend to be consistently productive.

Rather than look for bait on my FF or going out of my way to "bait areas" on maps or from surfing for silver bullets on Internet, I prefer to put a small 3 oz iron on the end of my sabiki and drag it behind me as I go directly to my fishing zone destinations. Usually, I'll catch enough bait on the straight line to my destination than fiddling around and wasting precious fishing time trying too hard to specifically "make bait."

With luck at first light, I generally find all the bait I need for the day on my way out. I always carry fresh frozen squid and artificial bait rigs as backup.

I buy stronger size sabiki (25-30#) leaders and mount them on more serious poles I use for my other fishing rigs. I have occasionally caught real fish on my sabiki rig that needs a full size leader. I scrapped my old lake-weight dedicated sabiki pole for ocean fishing. Less gear clutter on a little Outback in favor of better, more multi-purpose gear.

Like everything else: trial, error, practice, experience makes a difference. We often hear "10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish" .... right? There's a reason for this. The more we fish, the more we learn, and the more we can make our own "luck." There are small differences and nuances involved that make big differences in our productivity.

There are many opinions. Try them all and figure out what works best for you.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-22-2018, 11:29 AM

Another idea from when I was first fumbling around trying to catch bait:

Butt Juice seems to make a difference on slow days. When catching bait was more iffy for me, adding small squid strips on my sabiki hooks and marinating in Butt Juice helped.

I still have some in my refrigerator but haven't needed to use it for the past few years.

I bought 8oz bottles online. Locally, I've seen 2oz bottles on the shelf at Seaforth Sportfishing tackle shop. It's made by Pro Cure.

Hunters Pa · 03-22-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

Another idea from when I was first fumbling around trying to catch bait:

Butt Juice seems to make a difference on slow days. When catching bait was more iffy for me, adding small squid strips on my sabiki hooks and marinating in Butt Juice helped.

I still have some in my refrigerator but haven't needed to use it for the past few years.

I bought 8oz bottles online. Locally, I've seen 2oz bottles on the shelf at Seaforth Sportfishing tackle shop. It's made by Pro Cure.

Squid can be the ticket. Cutting off the tentacles is easier than trying to cut small strips in dark/cold.

Fiskadoro · 03-22-2018, 03:36 PM

I use a Ahi sabiki rod but I have cut it down shorter so I can store it in my kayak.

I use these type of sabikis:

Cut them down to four to fit in the shortened rod.

If bait is hard to find I will take wet cat food and chum with it on bait marks to get bait up to the yak.

Live Squid are the best bait and when I meter them I use a squid jig instead of a weight with my sabiki otherwise I use a 4 ounce torpedo, as I want it to drop fast and to be able to see it on my meter. With squid they often grab the bait on the sink, once I have one on I stay at that depth, and I jig the sabiki around to attempt to load it up.

I like squid, greenbacks, sardines, Spanish and smelts in that order.

Spanish are not the best baits but they live the best on the hook and I really like them for dropper loop fishing. I've also caught halibut on brown bait and also small lizard fish. Lings love lizard fish, and sand dabs. Halibut not so much but they will eat lizards as well, but not that often, and they prefer small ones.

Ggiannig89 · 03-22-2018, 05:49 PM

I’ve been out in La Jolla a few times where bait was ridiculously hard to make even while it was boiling all around me. What worked for me luckily on one of those days was a steady chum of crushed cheezeits from my lunch.

sdyeti · 03-22-2018, 11:30 AM

Anyone have experience with the Sabikis off of ebay that are like 100 for around $120?

03-22-2018, 10:53 AM	#2
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 838	Before we have some experience catching bait, it might not be so easy as some of the pros here make it sound. "Easy peasy" might be an overstatement. Not having live bait when we want it kind of sucks. If we do it wrong, it's easy to catch nothing. SOME MORE TIPS for making bait that I've learned in La Jolla, Mission Bay and San Diego Bay. I am not familiar with Newport or Dana Point. The size of the sabiki hook makes a difference. Not too big seems to be better, IMO. Some people use old sabiki's until the hooks break off, but a fresh sabiki is exceptionally "sticky." I find the cheap no-name sabiki's on sale at Squidco for a couple dollars work just as well as the name brand sabiki's for 3x the price. I tend to catch bait much easier at first light. It seems to be more abundant and active at that time. For whatever reasons, some areas I pass my kayak through tend to be consistently productive. Rather than look for bait on my FF or going out of my way to "bait areas" on maps or from surfing for silver bullets on Internet, I prefer to put a small 3 oz iron on the end of my sabiki and drag it behind me as I go directly to my fishing zone destinations. Usually, I'll catch enough bait on the straight line to my destination than fiddling around and wasting precious fishing time trying too hard to specifically "make bait." With luck at first light, I generally find all the bait I need for the day on my way out. I always carry fresh frozen squid and artificial bait rigs as backup. I buy stronger size sabiki (25-30#) leaders and mount them on more serious poles I use for my other fishing rigs. I have occasionally caught real fish on my sabiki rig that needs a full size leader. I scrapped my old lake-weight dedicated sabiki pole for ocean fishing. Less gear clutter on a little Outback in favor of better, more multi-purpose gear. Like everything else: trial, error, practice, experience makes a difference. We often hear "10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish" .... right? There's a reason for this. The more we fish, the more we learn, and the more we can make our own "luck." There are small differences and nuances involved that make big differences in our productivity. There are many opinions. Try them all and figure out what works best for you. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise Last edited by Mr. NiceGuy; 03-22-2018 at 11:52 AM.

03-22-2018, 11:29 AM	#3
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 838	Another idea from when I was first fumbling around trying to catch bait: Butt Juice seems to make a difference on slow days. When catching bait was more iffy for me, adding small squid strips on my sabiki hooks and marinating in Butt Juice helped. I still have some in my refrigerator but haven't needed to use it for the past few years. I bought 8oz bottles online. Locally, I've seen 2oz bottles on the shelf at Seaforth Sportfishing tackle shop. It's made by Pro Cure. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

03-22-2018, 03:36 PM	#5
Fiskadoro ....... Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,509	More sabiki nonsense I use a Ahi sabiki rod but I have cut it down shorter so I can store it in my kayak. I use these type of sabikis: Cut them down to four to fit in the shortened rod. If bait is hard to find I will take wet cat food and chum with it on bait marks to get bait up to the yak. Live Squid are the best bait and when I meter them I use a squid jig instead of a weight with my sabiki otherwise I use a 4 ounce torpedo, as I want it to drop fast and to be able to see it on my meter. With squid they often grab the bait on the sink, once I have one on I stay at that depth, and I jig the sabiki around to attempt to load it up. I like squid, greenbacks, sardines, Spanish and smelts in that order. Spanish are not the best baits but they live the best on the hook and I really like them for dropper loop fishing. I've also caught halibut on brown bait and also small lizard fish. Lings love lizard fish, and sand dabs. Halibut not so much but they will eat lizards as well, but not that often, and they prefer small ones. Last edited by Fiskadoro; 03-22-2018 at 10:50 PM.

03-22-2018, 08:59 AM	#1
YakHanded Thread Killer - sorry Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Clemente Posts: 256	Can almost bet on bait hanging out near the red can at DP headlands.. if you get desperate just troll the sabiki around outside it and you will catch a few baits.

03-22-2018, 05:49 PM	#6
Ggiannig89 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: El Cajon Posts: 512	I’ve been out in La Jolla a few times where bait was ridiculously hard to make even while it was boiling all around me. What worked for me luckily on one of those days was a steady chum of crushed cheezeits from my lunch.

03-22-2018, 11:30 AM	#7
sdyeti Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: San Diego Posts: 55	Anyone have experience with the Sabikis off of ebay that are like 100 for around $120?