Outback or Revolution or Pro Angler 12? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

CKallday71 · 04-28-2013, 07:39 AM

Hey guys. I'm contemplating getting a Hobie for the pedal power. I'm trying to decide between a PA 12 and an Outback or Revolution?

I'd like to hear personal experiences. Suggestions. Warnings.

I currently have a Cobra fish and dive and I dig it but the whole pedal power thing looks so functional for fishing and the speed is awesome too.

Thanks for the input guys!

Dannowar · 04-28-2013, 07:54 AM

Might As well do it right the first time. PA

TJones · 04-28-2013, 07:58 AM

i would think the outback is more versatile . i have not used a pro angler but would like to demo one . right now i have a revolution . i sacrificed stability and space for a little more speed . at one point i had both yaks and wish i had kept both . if in the future i own a second kayak , i would probably choose the pro angler , but i think you are limited on the conditions in which you could launch . i know a few guys that do this on a daily basis that are exemptions of the rule . but they also have years of experience kayaking and surfing , and make everything look simple . the dimensions of your previous or current kayak are or were probably similar . with that in mind , i would choose the outback , unless you are fishing mainly lakes and or bays . goodluck .

CKallday71 · 04-28-2013, 08:01 AM

Weight and maneuverability are also an issue. I have to load this thing solo on top of my car lol.

ctrujillo · 04-28-2013, 10:08 AM

I started on a cobra fish and dive super stable great in open water.then i moveed up to a malibu xfactor just as stable a little quicker for a wide yak now have a pa 14 yeah its heavy but on the water that thing is awesome and i can fish further with less fatigue.its more of a boat than yak imho.i love the thing but i miss my xfactor hell next blem sale i may pick another up for my boy

RobFish · 04-28-2013, 11:11 AM

PA12 no doubt about it. Lots of folks solo load PA's roof top, and not just 12's, but 14's as well. Is a Revo faster? Probably, by a mph or two, but really how far are you going, and what's another 3 minutes of pedaling going to change?

TJones · 04-28-2013, 01:27 PM

but because it can't handle as much weight , when you factor in a big old man , with gear , most of that speed difference is lost .and that is not including his brew .

RockyRaab · 04-28-2013, 02:29 PM

I can't speak to ocean launches from here in Utah, but I'm age 66 and I get my PA14 atop my Dodge Durango with no problems at all. Pulling it fully loaded back up a boat ramp is harder than getting it empty onto the truck.

boxturtle · 04-29-2013, 08:22 AM

never tried a revo but have both outbacks and pa12....the pa12 imo has the best platform for fishing and the best seat. Loading isn't so much a problem there is lots of ways to do it and the flatbottom makes life so much easier. Even when it's a couple pounds heavier then the outback the shape of the craft makes up for it. So is it a no brainer to get a pa12? not so fast...besides the price tag there is another price to pay and very surprise nobody has mentioned it. The pa12 doesn't track very well and many says it's not designed too. You have to adjust the steering every other minute. The craft pulls to one side. The rudder too small or too far up is the flaw in design. Say what you want but it's energy wasted when it doesn't track. The outback might not have all the bells and whistles but it tracks true and has more then enough storage area for a long day of fishing. A must is an upgrade to the seat. With the money you save pick up the hullavator rack. It's just smart

Thats my 2 and half cent

rieffer · 04-29-2013, 08:38 AM

I've had my PA12 since last July. I love it. Really keeps you dry and comfortable. When in deep in the kelp make sure you don't forget your paddle.

rieffer · 04-29-2013, 08:55 AM

Go for the PA12. It's a little more money, but it's got plenty of room and is really stable in some bumpy conditions. Just don't forget your paddle when fishing the kelp.

04-28-2013, 07:39 AM	#1
CKallday71 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: The 951 Posts: 430	Outback or Revolution or Pro Angler 12? Hey guys. I'm contemplating getting a Hobie for the pedal power. I'm trying to decide between a PA 12 and an Outback or Revolution? I'd like to hear personal experiences. Suggestions. Warnings. I currently have a Cobra fish and dive and I dig it but the whole pedal power thing looks so functional for fishing and the speed is awesome too. Thanks for the input guys! Last edited by CKallday71; 04-28-2013 at 07:46 AM.

04-28-2013, 07:54 AM	#2
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Might As well do it right the first time. PA __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

04-28-2013, 07:58 AM	#3
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,523	previous owner of outback i would think the outback is more versatile . i have not used a pro angler but would like to demo one . right now i have a revolution . i sacrificed stability and space for a little more speed . at one point i had both yaks and wish i had kept both . if in the future i own a second kayak , i would probably choose the pro angler , but i think you are limited on the conditions in which you could launch . i know a few guys that do this on a daily basis that are exemptions of the rule . but they also have years of experience kayaking and surfing , and make everything look simple . the dimensions of your previous or current kayak are or were probably similar . with that in mind , i would choose the outback , unless you are fishing mainly lakes and or bays . goodluck .

04-28-2013, 11:11 AM	#6
RobFish Massive Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 382	PA12 no doubt about it. Lots of folks solo load PA's roof top, and not just 12's, but 14's as well. Is a Revo faster? Probably, by a mph or two, but really how far are you going, and what's another 3 minutes of pedaling going to change? __________________

04-28-2013, 01:27 PM	#7
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,523	it is a little quicker when totally empty but because it can't handle as much weight , when you factor in a big old man , with gear , most of that speed difference is lost .and that is not including his brew .

04-28-2013, 08:01 AM	#4
CKallday71 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: The 951 Posts: 430	Weight and maneuverability are also an issue. I have to load this thing solo on top of my car lol.

04-28-2013, 10:08 AM	#5
ctrujillo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: garden grove Posts: 308	I started on a cobra fish and dive super stable great in open water.then i moveed up to a malibu xfactor just as stable a little quicker for a wide yak now have a pa 14 yeah its heavy but on the water that thing is awesome and i can fish further with less fatigue.its more of a boat than yak imho.i love the thing but i miss my xfactor hell next blem sale i may pick another up for my boy

04-28-2013, 02:29 PM	#8
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	I can't speak to ocean launches from here in Utah, but I'm age 66 and I get my PA14 atop my Dodge Durango with no problems at all. Pulling it fully loaded back up a boat ramp is harder than getting it empty onto the truck.

04-29-2013, 08:22 AM	#9
boxturtle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 291	never tried a revo but have both outbacks and pa12....the pa12 imo has the best platform for fishing and the best seat. Loading isn't so much a problem there is lots of ways to do it and the flatbottom makes life so much easier. Even when it's a couple pounds heavier then the outback the shape of the craft makes up for it. So is it a no brainer to get a pa12? not so fast...besides the price tag there is another price to pay and very surprise nobody has mentioned it. The pa12 doesn't track very well and many says it's not designed too. You have to adjust the steering every other minute. The craft pulls to one side. The rudder too small or too far up is the flaw in design. Say what you want but it's energy wasted when it doesn't track. The outback might not have all the bells and whistles but it tracks true and has more then enough storage area for a long day of fishing. A must is an upgrade to the seat. With the money you save pick up the hullavator rack. It's just smart Thats my 2 and half cent

04-29-2013, 08:38 AM	#10
rieffer Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 91	PA 12 I've had my PA12 since last July. I love it. Really keeps you dry and comfortable. When in deep in the kelp make sure you don't forget your paddle.

04-29-2013, 08:55 AM	#11
rieffer Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 91	Go for the PA12. It's a little more money, but it's got plenty of room and is really stable in some bumpy conditions. Just don't forget your paddle when fishing the kelp.