Missing kayaker in Mission Bay!

[buddha]

What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.

How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?

I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.

[janines.fishtales@cox.net]

The bottom line of the story is, it's a large body of water and anything can happen. People go out there, unprepared, and beyond their capabilities all the time. Our beaches and bays are an incredible source of recreation, but it is the wilderness and it is not to be underestimated. Please, lets all learn from this young man. Be safe out there!

Janine

[johnnyblaze2009]

Originally Posted by buddha

What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.



How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?



I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.

He was a guest of someone's for a company party at that resort. He wasn't issued a kayak, when one came available, one person got off and another got on, the pfd was tucked under the bungee straps but was not the correct size for him. It was for a child. But he chose to take the kayak out anyways and with inexperience in kayaking and swimming paid the ultimate price. My parents and sister were guests as well to that event. They seen the guy getting his face painted that day.


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[wiredantz]

Originally Posted by johnnyblaze2009

He was a guest of someone's for a company party at that resort. He wasn't issued a kayak, when one came available, one person got off and another got on, the pfd was tucked under the bungee straps but was not the correct size for him. It was for a child. But he chose to take the kayak out anyways and with inexperience in kayaking and swimming paid the ultimate price. My parents and sister were guests as well to that event. They seen the guy getting his face painted that day.


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My life vest is one thing I never take off, unless im taking off my sweater( or putting one on). I then put it back on immediately. I always make sure my life vest is in Great Condition too.

[Hunters Pa]

Originally Posted by buddha

What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.

How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?

I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.

You could be Michael Phelps, but get hit & knocked out by a drunk on a jetski or in a boat and you are done.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

You could be Michael Phelps, but get hit & knocked out by a drunk on a jetski or in a boat and you are done.

That could be true of anyone.

What is your point?

He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.

[makobob]

I would bet that the Catamaran has changed their policy on rentals or improved their training to employees. Too bad they lost a client to learn a lesson they already knew. Always wear a life vest and always buckle up. There ARE no excuses.

[momo fish]

Read again. He is saying even the best swimmer needs to have a pfd on.

Originally Posted by buddha

That could be true of anyone.



What is your point?



He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.

[Hunters Pa]

Originally Posted by buddha

That could be true of anyone.

What is your point?

He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.

Point is, being a great swimmer will not save you if some jackass runs into you and knocks you out.

I have a wife and two kids that count on me coming home from the few trips I actually get to make. I wear my PFD from when I am launching until I am back on shore

[oneyedeer]

just remember to do your research not all pfd are made equal.....some pfd are made so that it will automatically right you up if you are unconscious others does not

[jorluivil]

Why do we turn every thread into a pissing contest?

[GregAndrew]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Why do we turn every thread into a pissing contest?

Because there are 10,000 expert risk managers on here that know exactly how you should run your life. Why do you ask?

[buddha]

Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

Point is, being a great swimmer will not save you if some jackass runs into you and knocks you out.

I have a wife and two kids that count on me coming home from the few trips I actually get to make. I wear my PFD from when I am launching until I am back on shore

That was exactly my point. He didn't know how to swim and he needed to be briefed on wearing that pfd the entire time.

I agree that everyone needs to wear the pfd at all times for safety.

The rental crew needs to enforce that.

[FISH11]

The resort and the rental crew it seems are out of this picture, when an individual rents the kayak and then allows a bunch of other people to use it. In the end someone that is inexperienced suffers and you can't blame the resort or rental crew. I blame the person who rented the Kayak and then allowed a bunch of other people to use it. Because you know "It just a toy". The same stupid thinking is what happens everyday in all these places because people think Boat, Jet Skis, etc are just toys. Maybe someone will read about this tragedy and it will save someone next time. Just my $0.02. Personal Responsibility.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by FISH11

The resort and the rental crew it seems are out of this picture, when an individual rents the kayak and then allows a bunch of other people to use it. In the end someone that is inexperienced suffers and you can't blame the resort or rental crew. I blame the person who rented the Kayak and then allowed a bunch of other people to use it. Because you know "It just a toy". The same stupid thinking is what happens everyday in all these places because people think Boat, Jet Skis, etc are just toys. Maybe someone will read about this tragedy and it will save someone next time. Just my $0.02. Personal Responsibility.

I agree that the rental company is not liable most likely if someone allowed a bunch of other people to use it.

However I believe it should be the responsibility of the rental outfit to make sure that everyone that rents a kayak is briefed on wearing the pfd and make sure that it fits correctly. If the pfd is put on wrong it won't help you in case of an emergency.