Anyone hoop during daylight hours? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

old_rookie · 01-22-2011, 03:16 PM

I know they crawl at night, just wondering if it has been tried during the day and has it been successfull?

jorluivil · 01-22-2011, 03:23 PM

I tried it a few weeks ago when they were crawling like crazy but I got nada on a 45min soak. Reset every trap at 1720(sunset) in the same locations and gave them a pull shortly after 1800, it was game on..........limits in under 90min after the sun went bye bye.

Fiskadoro · 01-22-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by old_rookie

I know they crawl at night, just wondering if it has been tried during the day and has it been successfull?

I've done it. Sometimes you can get a few stragglers right at dawn, but you can actually have good success if your hooping in really really dirty water.

It's a food vrs risk equation.

Bugs come out at night because their predators have more trouble seeing them in the dark. In daylight they can be seen clearly against the sand by such predators as sharks black seabass or seals.

The more light be it a full moon or sunlight that you have the closer they want to stay to the safety of their holes.

The exception is extremely dirty water, because the predators can't see them in pea soup conditions, they then feel comfortable scavenging food even in the daylight, and since they scavenge using their sense of smell the dirty water doesn't slow them down or inhibit their ability to feed.

Jim

wade · 01-22-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by old_rookie

I know they crawl at night, just wondering if it has been tried during the day and has it been successfull?

it is successful especially if your dropin' on the said structure / reefs/holes.
(in their face) Vs. looking for a true crawl..

I have had to learn a few areas in San Diego that way because its more treacherous at night. I did point loma and sunset cliffs that way when i first moved here.. then the same for the Carlsbad reef just recently..sometimes when i have to claim a spot, like in Dp, i will pull occasionally, or hours even before sunset and have gotten a couple lucky bold ones..

Saba Slayer · 01-22-2011, 05:50 PM

What Jim Day said X2.

"I've done it. Sometimes you can get a few stragglers right at dawn, but you can actually have good success if your hooping in really really dirty water.
It's a food vrs risk equation.
Bugs come out at night because their predators have more trouble seeing them in the dark. In daylight they can be seen clearly against the sand by such predators as sharks black seabass or seals.
The more light be it a full moon or sunlight that you have the closer they want to stay to the safety of their holes.
The exception is extremely dirty water, because the predators can't see them in pea soup conditions, they then feel comfortable scavenging food even in the daylight, and since they scavenge using their sense of smell the dirty water doesn't slow them down or inhibit their ability to feed."

Just look for the right conditions. Earlier in the season it's always easier to find them in the shallows...a lot of the Bugs are starting to move deep now and I usually find only Crabs when I hoop deep during the day.
Good Luck!

Jim / Saba Slayer

old_rookie · 01-23-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I tried it a few weeks ago when they were crawling like crazy but I got nada on a 45min soak. Reset every trap at 1720(sunset) in the same locations and gave them a pull shortly after 1800, it was game on..........limits in under 90min after the sun went bye bye.

You make it sound very easy. I'm just not set up for night time kayak trips.

yaknewb · 01-23-2011, 06:41 PM

hey man if you head out in the day to hoop id be glad to tag along im not set up for night either and im kinda new to it.

Saba Slayer · 01-23-2011, 07:17 PM

What's to set up? ?
You just need an all around white light that sticks up high enough to be seen and a buddy to hoop with. Oh yea...and some nice warm clothes this time of year...although this week looks pretty nice till Friday.

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Originally Posted by old_rookie

You make it sound very easy. I'm just not set up for night time kayak trips.

Jim / Saba Slayer

old_rookie · 01-24-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

What's to set up? ?
You just need an all around white light that sticks up high enough to be seen and a buddy to hoop with. Oh yea...and some nice warm clothes this time of year...although this week looks pretty nice till Friday.

Jim / Saba Slayer

Exactly. Need to get a light. Got nada. One for the head too.

01-22-2011, 03:16 PM	#1
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	Anyone hoop during daylight hours? I know they crawl at night, just wondering if it has been tried during the day and has it been successfull?

01-22-2011, 05:50 PM	#5
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,833	Bugs What Jim Day said X2. "I've done it. Sometimes you can get a few stragglers right at dawn, but you can actually have good success if your hooping in really really dirty water. It's a food vrs risk equation. Bugs come out at night because their predators have more trouble seeing them in the dark. In daylight they can be seen clearly against the sand by such predators as sharks black seabass or seals. The more light be it a full moon or sunlight that you have the closer they want to stay to the safety of their holes. The exception is extremely dirty water, because the predators can't see them in pea soup conditions, they then feel comfortable scavenging food even in the daylight, and since they scavenge using their sense of smell the dirty water doesn't slow them down or inhibit their ability to feed." Just look for the right conditions. Earlier in the season it's always easier to find them in the shallows...a lot of the Bugs are starting to move deep now and I usually find only Crabs when I hoop deep during the day. Good Luck! Jim / Saba Slayer

01-23-2011, 06:41 PM	#7
yaknewb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 143	daylight hooping hey man if you head out in the day to hoop id be glad to tag along im not set up for night either and im kinda new to it.

01-22-2011, 03:23 PM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	I tried it a few weeks ago when they were crawling like crazy but I got nada on a 45min soak. Reset every trap at 1720(sunset) in the same locations and gave them a pull shortly after 1800, it was game on..........limits in under 90min after the sun went bye bye.