Cap sized Pro Angler - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dwntwnall4u · 02-02-2013, 11:18 PM

Weather can change quickly, be safe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKSnRKLJpq0

dbarnett66 · 02-02-2013, 11:30 PM

Wow....Makes me think twice about going out there. I have not popped my cherry yet. Need to work with the training wheels for a while.

Dannowar · 02-03-2013, 01:04 AM

Seems like a cakewalk compared to the Dana point challenge outside the harbor

Jimmyz123 · 02-03-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarnett66

Wow....Makes me think twice about going out there. I have not popped my cherry yet. Need to work with the training wheels for a while.

Dude, just make sure you check the weather reports, surf reports, and use your brain. If you're standing on the shore and don't feel comfortable with the conditions, don't paddle out. Be Smart.

ful-rac · 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM

That really looked like it sucked! Hes lucky he was able to turn it back over...definitely a bad idea to go out that day and to have his seat cranked up all the way too...

blitzburgh · 02-03-2013, 09:00 AM

Too many perfect days in So Cal to go out when it's like that for me. I'm glad the dude is OK but he looked really unprepared for re-entering his boat. I have jumped (and fell

) in the drink at least a dozen times from a PA14 and my current PA12 and never turned it over like that. Practice knowing your boat and how to exit and enter it before you have to do it live. I learned that from Jim Sammons many years ago.

JeffB · 02-03-2013, 09:04 AM

That sux. I remember flipping my Revo out in La Jolla. I tried standing up in it to see what was chasing a school of bait fish. Standing and fishing in the Revo in SDB not so bad. standing in Revo to look at bait in La Jolla, complete and wet disaster! I had to swim down like 10' the fetch a run away rod as well. To make things better, it happened within secs of passing the yellow buoys! Luckily Uncle Paul had some dry clothes!

Di$co · 02-04-2013, 03:36 PM

I'm glad he is ok and I'm glad he was wearing his PFD. That's a downfall of any peddle driven kayak is in that situation it is much better to be using a paddle. You can use brace strokes to keep yourself upright. And practicing self rescues no matter how big and unflippable your kayak is.

If anyone wants to learn some good paddle and self rescue techniques I am available. Contact OEX and they can set up a class and I'll come up to Sunset Beach or down to Mission Bay to teach it.

02-04-2013, 04:09 PM

got rolled in my cobra first time ever doing a beach launch. Was not fun at all but did learn some very valuable lessons and thank god im comfortable in the ocean.

TJones · 02-04-2013, 05:36 PM

no so much for the guy in the video .

. i just installed two metal rings on my f/f battery , and ran a nylon belt through them with a quick release buckle . i use it to secure battery , so the next time i roll it myself .

Iceman · 02-05-2013, 06:34 AM

The guy kept his composure! Good of him to share his experience.

Jim Sammons LJKF · 02-05-2013, 06:57 AM

I think this video also shows that some of the boats that people think are the most stable actually are not when the conditions get rough. High seat, little secondary stability, rough seas and inexperience add to disaster. As Eric said above having a paddle in your hand for bracing is key also.

Siebler · 02-05-2013, 07:19 AM

Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.

FARRIER · 02-05-2013, 07:45 AM

That was really good to watch. Thanks for sharing it.

danjor · 02-05-2013, 10:30 AM

I would have to agree, in bad weather I would rather be in a trident 15 than anything else, and I don't know why people think its unstable or easy to tip over, I fished on one for over 5 years and never accidentally tipped it over except for the occasional bad beach landing, I have also been in some seriously bad weather up north in it that I would never want to be in with my new x factors, almost makes me want to buy another trident right after I just spent forever selling mine. Haha

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Originally Posted by Siebler

Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.

fishing-kayak · 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM

Going out on such a bad weather? Wow, i can't imagine myself going out, but seems like you had quite an adventurous day.

Di$co · 02-05-2013, 10:40 AM

I'm down CJ. I think for safety reasons no more then 6 in a class. We could do it in La Jolla since that is where most people will be beach launching around here it is always good to practice where you preach. We can do one up in Iceman's neck of the woods too if there is interest up there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siebler

Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.

dorado50 · 02-05-2013, 10:42 AM

Not that bad out there...he needs to improve his seamanship skills! Ya just don't go sideways to the wind waves.

02-02-2013, 11:18 PM	#1
dwntwnall4u Kevin C. Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego/Hawaii Posts: 146	Cap sized Pro Angler Weather can change quickly, be safe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKSnRKLJpq0

02-03-2013, 01:04 AM	#3
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Seems like a cakewalk compared to the Dana point challenge outside the harbor __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

02-03-2013, 08:49 AM	#5
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	That really looked like it sucked! Hes lucky he was able to turn it back over...definitely a bad idea to go out that day and to have his seat cranked up all the way too... __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

02-03-2013, 09:00 AM	#6
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	Too many perfect days in So Cal to go out when it's like that for me. I'm glad the dude is OK but he looked really unprepared for re-entering his boat. I have jumped (and fell ) in the drink at least a dozen times from a PA14 and my current PA12 and never turned it over like that. Practice knowing your boat and how to exit and enter it before you have to do it live. I learned that from Jim Sammons many years ago. __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

02-03-2013, 09:04 AM	#7
JeffB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: La Jolla Posts: 1,216	That sux. I remember flipping my Revo out in La Jolla. I tried standing up in it to see what was chasing a school of bait fish. Standing and fishing in the Revo in SDB not so bad. standing in Revo to look at bait in La Jolla, complete and wet disaster! I had to swim down like 10' the fetch a run away rod as well. To make things better, it happened within secs of passing the yellow buoys! Luckily Uncle Paul had some dry clothes! __________________ If you're looking for me I'm

02-02-2013, 11:30 PM	#2
dbarnett66 Danodog Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lakeside, CA Posts: 155	Wow....Makes me think twice about going out there. I have not popped my cherry yet. Need to work with the training wheels for a while.

02-04-2013, 03:36 PM	#8
Di$co Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 33	I'm glad he is ok and I'm glad he was wearing his PFD. That's a downfall of any peddle driven kayak is in that situation it is much better to be using a paddle. You can use brace strokes to keep yourself upright. And practicing self rescues no matter how big and unflippable your kayak is. If anyone wants to learn some good paddle and self rescue techniques I am available. Contact OEX and they can set up a class and I'll come up to Sunset Beach or down to Mission Bay to teach it. __________________ Eric Disque Representative Feel Free Kayaks Pyranha Kayaks P&H Sea Kayaks Venture Kayaks Imagine Surf SUP JP Australia SUP NP Paddles and Waterwear SeasonFive Technical Apparel

02-04-2013, 04:09 PM	#9
madncrzydm Guest Posts: n/a	got rolled in my cobra first time ever doing a beach launch. Was not fun at all but did learn some very valuable lessons and thank god im comfortable in the ocean.

02-04-2013, 05:36 PM	#10
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,523	great post to share no so much for the guy in the video . . i just installed two metal rings on my f/f battery , and ran a nylon belt through them with a quick release buckle . i use it to secure battery , so the next time i roll it myself .

02-05-2013, 06:34 AM	#11
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	The guy kept his composure! Good of him to share his experience. __________________

02-05-2013, 06:57 AM	#12
Jim Sammons LJKF Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 947	I think this video also shows that some of the boats that people think are the most stable actually are not when the conditions get rough. High seat, little secondary stability, rough seas and inexperience add to disaster. As Eric said above having a paddle in your hand for bracing is key also. __________________ Jim Sammons La Jolla Kayak Fishing The Kayak Fishing Show JimSammons.com

02-05-2013, 07:19 AM	#13
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions. Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video. On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time. __________________ CJ Siebler

02-05-2013, 07:45 AM	#14
FARRIER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cmont [] Posts: 314	That was really good to watch. Thanks for sharing it. __________________ "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." –Bill Clinton

02-05-2013, 10:35 AM	#16
fishing-kayak Junior Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 15	Going out on such a bad weather? Wow, i can't imagine myself going out, but seems like you had quite an adventurous day. __________________ fishing-kayak.net

02-05-2013, 10:42 AM	#18
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Not that bad out there...he needs to improve his seamanship skills! Ya just don't go sideways to the wind waves.