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Old 02-12-2011, 07:52 PM   #1
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I was there too. The wait turned out to be a good time.
I ended up with an X-Factor blem that was marked thin in a few different places. I'm pretty sure it means the wall thickness wasn't thick enough to make it to retail. Should I be concerned about this or is it really nothing to worry about?
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:48 PM   #2
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I was there too. The wait turned out to be a good time.
I ended up with an X-Factor blem that was marked thin in a few different places. I'm pretty sure it means the wall thickness wasn't thick enough to make it to retail. Should I be concerned about this or is it really nothing to worry about?

Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

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Old 02-12-2011, 08:55 PM   #3
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Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

JP
Yes, Andy did that for me too on. Under the seat Support hole. He reinforced it no leaks and peace of mind ever since.

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Old 02-13-2011, 06:42 AM   #4
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Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

JP

I plan to use it almost exclusively in the ocean.
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
I hope I am just overthinking this but damn if I have to put a bunch of money into it suddenly the great deal could turn into a hassle and a not so great deal if you know what I mean. I probably wouldn't care at all if I wasn't 255lbs.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:25 AM   #5
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Glad to see there are new Yakers out there that are new at the sport like me. Looking forward to seeing you all out on the water sometime soon. If you have never Kayaked before I recommend going onto YouTube and watch all the Kayaking surf launching, rigging, paddling, and anything thing else Kayak related. They will help build you knowledge, and confidence. Jim Sammons has a Great Surf Landing video with tons of information that could save you from having a "Yard Sale" on the landing. Speaking for myself, after watching these videos I have learned so much and have a ton of confidence.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:10 PM   #6
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Sorry I did not respond sooner than this. The kayaks sold yesterday still had to meet quality control standards. All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect. Don't let uneven plastic worry you, it had to meet specs to qualify as purely cosmetic. I use similar blems in my rental fleet and have never seen any issues resulting in uneven plastic. The sale was "as is" with 90 day warranty, with no returns. Reason being that if you had not bought the kayak someone else would have. Don't second guess your derision. We will make sure you are a happy customer. OEX Stands by these kayaks.

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There will be no sales prior to 9AM on Saturday February 12th! Arrive early for the best selection
9am-2pm at Malibu Kayaks Factory parking lot
7110 Jackson Street Paramount, CA 90723-4837
Great deals on seats, paddles and accessories as well!
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562-592-0800
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All sales of kayaks are final and sold “AS IS”.
All kayaks will come with a 90 day limited repair warranty against manufacturer defect, and must be claimed through OEX.
Prices are valid for today February 12th, 2011 only. No “rain checks” will be given. All sales are on a first come first serve basis.
All sales are done through OEX and all customer service issues and warranties must be directed to OEX
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:54 PM   #7
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Sorry I did not respond sooner than this. The kayaks sold yesterday still had to meet quality control standards. All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect. Don't let uneven plastic worry you, it had to meet specs to qualify as purely cosmetic. I use similar blems in my rental fleet and have never seen any issues resulting in uneven plastic. The sale was "as is" with 90 day warranty, with no returns. Reason being that if you had not bought the kayak someone else would have. Don't second guess your derision. We will make sure you are a happy customer. OEX Stands by these kayaks.
Hey Andy. Thanks for all the info.
I have heard nothing but good things about you and OEX. I am also 100% aware of the return policy on the blem yaks. I'm not requesting a refund or exchange or anything like that. I'm more concerned about whether or not it's safe and whether or not I should attack the problem now or later or whether it is even a problem or potential problem that's all.
"All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect."
Does this mean I can still load it down completely and bash it through the surf and all? What do you think Andy? Potential concerns?
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
The other reasons for blems being determined as blems are far less complicated than this one is. Obviously you wouldn't care to fix a scratch now or put a graphic on that maybe wasn't there. But my issue is a little more trivial.

Thanks Andy!
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Old 02-13-2011, 03:13 PM   #8
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Mini X's

Hi, are there any Mini X's left over from the sale?

It sounds like the sale was a big success!

Congrats to all who got the great deals!
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:26 PM   #9
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Hey Andy. Thanks for all the info.
I have heard nothing but good things about you and OEX. I am also 100% aware of the return policy on the blem yaks. I'm not requesting a refund or exchange or anything like that. I'm more concerned about whether or not it's safe and whether or not I should attack the problem now or later or whether it is even a problem or potential problem that's all.
"All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect."
Does this mean I can still load it down completely and bash it through the surf and all? What do you think Andy? Potential concerns?
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
The other reasons for blems being determined as blems are far less complicated than this one is. Obviously you wouldn't care to fix a scratch now or put a graphic on that maybe wasn't there. But my issue is a little more trivial.

Thanks Andy!
If Andy says it is seaworthy you can bet that you can use it just like any other yak. Unless you can see through the thin areas, you should have no problems. Just don't treat it like the rental guys at La Jolla and remember to visually inspect it on a regular basis as anybody should do.
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