Looking for a Kayak - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

zrbite · 11-30-2012, 07:21 AM

Never fished before but want to get into this sport and the only kayaking I've really done is on an inflatable one.

I'm looking for a pretty stable kayak, probably 31"+. Also would like the kayak to have flush mount rod holders and hatches. I also want to do lobster hooping, so a wider kayak would be helpful.

My price range is around the 400, 500 mark. Thanks.

Amish Ed · 11-30-2012, 07:54 AM

Here's a great deal.

Jimmyz123 · 11-30-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Here's a great deal.

I second this. A Trident 15 for less than $600 is an insane deal

zrbite · 11-30-2012, 08:56 AM

Yea I was definitely considering that, but the length is way too long for me to store. I'm thinking in the 12' range or so. The width is also 29", and I'm really looking for something much wider.

I haven't found anything I wanted yet on current posts, so hoping someone new who isn't sure about selling might show up.

OutdoorAdvntr · 11-30-2012, 08:59 AM

you can add stabilizer on both side.. the removable ones so it does not compromise the speed when paddling

Jimmyz123 · 11-30-2012, 11:29 AM

Don't let the width of the Trident scare you, trust me it's one of the most stable kayaks I have ever owned, unfortunately I have only owned the Prowler 15, same kayak a little older, and they are great. I can understand your storage issue but don't let the width scare you away.

FlyFishinYakr · 11-30-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zrbite

Never fished before but want to get into this sport and the only kayaking I've really done is on an inflatable one.

I'm looking for a pretty stable kayak, probably 31"+. Also would like the kayak to have flush mount rod holders and hatches. I also want to do lobster hooping, so a wider kayak would be helpful.

My price range is around the 400, 500 mark. Thanks.

As been noted here time and again, test paddle some to get a sense of how each one feels. Also you'll get a sense of how much harder a wider yak is to paddle.
Just because it's wide doesn't guarantee stability. Keel form and gunnel design have more to do with primary stability. Call OEX in SD to see what they have available to test paddle.
I also was concerned about stability when I bought my first yak but I found the wider ones MUCH harder to paddle due to their width.
In the 12' x 31" range I tried the Cobra F & D, and the OK Big Game, but (for me)I found I liked the Malibu Pro Explorer (12' x 31" wide) easier to paddle. But to each his/her own.
Just my .02.
Jimmy is right though, have read the OK Trident is very stabile despite it's narrow width. Would have been my next yak if I hadn't badly injured my back.
FFY.

zrbite · 11-30-2012, 07:18 PM

OEX lets you take kayaks out for a test? I didn't know that. The same place that did the blem sale?

kiyo21 · 11-30-2012, 10:41 PM

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=16127

Check this one out i wold pick it up myself i just dont got the doll hairs right now

Jimmyz123 · 12-01-2012, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyFishinYakr

As been noted here time and again, test paddle some to get a sense of how each one feels. Also you'll get a sense of how much harder a wider yak is to paddle.
Just because it's wide doesn't guarantee stability. Keel form and gunnel design have more to do with primary stability. Call OEX in SD to see what they have available to test paddle.
I also was concerned about stability when I bought my first yak but I found the wider ones MUCH harder to paddle due to their width.
In the 12' x 31" range I tried the Cobra F & D, and the OK Big Game, but (for me)I found I liked the Malibu Pro Explorer (12' x 31" wide) easier to paddle. But to each his/her own.
Just my .02.
Jimmy is right though, have read the OK Trident is very stabile despite it's narrow width. Would have been my next yak if I hadn't badly injured my back.
FFY.

When I first got into this sport I was looking for the wide kayaks also for the extra stability, but with that you end up getting a heavier Kayak. All that has to be taken in to account. When I sold my first Prowler 15 I kicked myself, and still wish I had not sold it. Then I bought a Malibu X-factor and yes it was stable, but not as fast as the Prowler. I have never had an issue with feeling like I was going to roll, of tip over in the Prowlers, however I have paddled cobra, Tarpon, and Malibu kayaks and of all the Kayaks I've owned and paddled the most stable are the Malibu and Prowler or Trident kayaks.

As mentioned, before you buy go test paddle all the kayaks you have thought about and see which you like the best.

www.piratekayak.com · 12-01-2012, 07:00 AM

Zrbite, go see Andy at OEX in Sunset beach he will hook you up.

tacmik · 12-01-2012, 06:46 PM

Or, since you live in San Diego. Visit the OEX shop on Mission Bay. Much Closer, Same great co.

zrbite · 12-01-2012, 06:51 PM

I'll check it out. Thanks.

zrbite · 12-02-2012, 01:07 PM

I am sort of considering the 2 kayaks now: Stealth 12 and Cobra Fish n Dive.

I will mostly be fishing in mission bay and la jolla shores area. I also will hoop for lobsters. Is the Fish and Dive really that much slower? I see one for $400 and wondering if I should pick it up or wait for the Stealth 12.

This will be my first kayak, so is it okay for the Cobra? I'm not even sure how much I'll get into fishing, since I've never done it, but so far it seems interesting. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.

MrM · 12-02-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zrbite

I am sort of considering the 2 kayaks now: Stealth 12 and Cobra Fish n Dive.

I will mostly be fishing in mission bay and la jolla shores area. I also will hoop for lobsters. Is the Fish and Dive really that much slower? I see one for $400 and wondering if I should pick it up or wait for the Stealth 12.

This will be my first kayak, so is it okay for the Cobra? I'm not even sure how much I'll get into fishing, since I've never done it, but so far it seems interesting. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.

I'm going on record as another vote for the Ocean Kayak Prowler/Trident. I've fished on a FnD and it is stable, but sloowwwwwww. On my Trident 13, I almost took a dive once. But my hoops were full of what felt like the entire ocean floor (probably a seal or something).

Buying a slow kayak is handicapping yourself IMO. You're going to want to go out further as you learn the ropes. A slow kayak will only make you tired quicker. Stealths aren't bad. There's a lot of people on here who use them. Nothing against them personally, I just think that Ocean Kayak makes a better product out of the three.

You mentioned you don't know how in to fishing you'll get... This is the only reason I'd get a FnD. Otherwise, get something better. Remember, this sport is a money hole. So regardless, you're going to throw money at it as you go along.

Sdspeed · 12-02-2012, 01:55 PM

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/3443681381.html

Mr. Adventure · 12-02-2012, 02:36 PM

I dunno if you saw my post, but I have everything included in my x-13 I'll even throw in hoop nets. As long as you aren't huge (I'm 6'2 185 and have never had balance issues) its a great yak, as stable as the fat tandem I paddled before and much quicker.

zrbite · 12-02-2012, 03:24 PM

After demoing the FnD, the speed was slow, but I'll need to demo another one to compare it to. As for stability, it was stable, but not like what the videos I see of people standing up and fishing. Standing up definitely requires a lot of balance.

I'll look into the prowler, trident as well to see how they are.

Thanks for all the help.

MrPatrick · 12-02-2012, 04:01 PM

I've owned both and the Trident is a far superior kayak. The FND is ok in the surf but the Trident beats it hands down during landings. I'm a big guy at 5'9" and 250 lbs. And the Trident is stable in any type of sea or chop.
The FND tends to catch an edge in the surf zone and needs you to be very good about high bracing. It does fish great and is very comfortable. A good cadence in your paddle and it moves at a reasonable speed.

11-30-2012, 07:21 AM	#1
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	Looking for a Kayak Never fished before but want to get into this sport and the only kayaking I've really done is on an inflatable one. I'm looking for a pretty stable kayak, probably 31"+. Also would like the kayak to have flush mount rod holders and hatches. I also want to do lobster hooping, so a wider kayak would be helpful. My price range is around the 400, 500 mark. Thanks.

11-30-2012, 07:54 AM	#2
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,903	Here's a great deal. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

11-30-2012, 11:29 AM	#6
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	Don't let the width of the Trident scare you, trust me it's one of the most stable kayaks I have ever owned, unfortunately I have only owned the Prowler 15, same kayak a little older, and they are great. I can understand your storage issue but don't let the width scare you away. __________________ No better time than being on the water, God Bless, JimmyZ

12-01-2012, 06:46 PM	#12
tacmik Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East County Posts: 914	Or, since you live in San Diego. Visit the OEX shop on Mission Bay. Much Closer, Same great co. __________________

12-02-2012, 04:01 PM	#19
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	FND vs Trident I've owned both and the Trident is a far superior kayak. The FND is ok in the surf but the Trident beats it hands down during landings. I'm a big guy at 5'9" and 250 lbs. And the Trident is stable in any type of sea or chop. The FND tends to catch an edge in the surf zone and needs you to be very good about high bracing. It does fish great and is very comfortable. A good cadence in your paddle and it moves at a reasonable speed.

11-30-2012, 08:56 AM	#4
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	Yea I was definitely considering that, but the length is way too long for me to store. I'm thinking in the 12' range or so. The width is also 29", and I'm really looking for something much wider. I haven't found anything I wanted yet on current posts, so hoping someone new who isn't sure about selling might show up.

11-30-2012, 08:59 AM	#5
OutdoorAdvntr Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: RC Posts: 71	you can add stabilizer on both side.. the removable ones so it does not compromise the speed when paddling

11-30-2012, 07:18 PM	#8
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	OEX lets you take kayaks out for a test? I didn't know that. The same place that did the blem sale?

11-30-2012, 10:41 PM	#9
kiyo21 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Chino CA Posts: 202	http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=16127 Check this one out i wold pick it up myself i just dont got the doll hairs right now

12-01-2012, 07:00 AM	#11
www.piratekayak.com Junior Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4	Zrbite, go see Andy at OEX in Sunset beach he will hook you up.

12-01-2012, 06:51 PM	#13
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	I'll check it out. Thanks.

12-02-2012, 01:07 PM	#14
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	I am sort of considering the 2 kayaks now: Stealth 12 and Cobra Fish n Dive. I will mostly be fishing in mission bay and la jolla shores area. I also will hoop for lobsters. Is the Fish and Dive really that much slower? I see one for $400 and wondering if I should pick it up or wait for the Stealth 12. This will be my first kayak, so is it okay for the Cobra? I'm not even sure how much I'll get into fishing, since I've never done it, but so far it seems interesting. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.

12-02-2012, 01:55 PM	#16
Sdspeed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 732	http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/3443681381.html

12-02-2012, 02:36 PM	#17
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	I dunno if you saw my post, but I have everything included in my x-13 I'll even throw in hoop nets. As long as you aren't huge (I'm 6'2 185 and have never had balance issues) its a great yak, as stable as the fat tandem I paddled before and much quicker.

12-02-2012, 03:24 PM	#18
zrbite Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	After demoing the FnD, the speed was slow, but I'll need to demo another one to compare it to. As for stability, it was stable, but not like what the videos I see of people standing up and fishing. Standing up definitely requires a lot of balance. I'll look into the prowler, trident as well to see how they are. Thanks for all the help.