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Old 04-13-2018, 08:13 PM   #1
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Redondo Kayak launch and Boat Ramp...?

I know the kayaking community is all jacked up about tomorrows Mission Bay Classic...Me too the car is packed...!LOL
But Hopefully you lovers of Redondo will take the time to get informed after all the dust has settled and the winners are declared.

Here's some political info for you about Redondo and it's waterfront....

The Coastal Commission met in Redondo yesterday and about 200 interested parties showed up to hear about the proposed boat ramp and measure C.
Measure C stopped the massive project proposed by CenterCal called "The Waterfront". The boat ramp is a Coastal Commission requirement befor any future permits for work on the waterfront can be issued.
Over the last few years a boat ramp has been proposed for 4 different locations in the harbor...After yesterdays discussions, it seems that the one place of the four that it won't be... is at the King Harbor Yacht Club (mole A)...! As far as the other three areas...The spot where the hoist is now is mole D and it is where the developer plans a big part of the retail development, even though it seems like the natural location for a ramp with traffic flow and parking and all...the mole B location is where the Harbor Patrol office is now and it's a very busy part of the harbor and for that reason the Harbor masters among others don't think it's a good location. That leaves mole C where the Crab Shack and the lagoon are...to build in that area requires a very expensive break wall to be built to control the tidal and storm surge...all that info left them agreeing to disagree...!
THE COMMISSION WILL BE MAKING A DECISION AT THE AUGUST MEETING.
Part of the Coastal Commissions goal yesterday was to get public input on the proposed boat ramp and revitalization project...BOY DID THEY GET IT...from 2pm to about 6:30pm they listened to about six 12 minute speeches and lots and lots of 2 minute speeches with everyones opinions expressed.
The Waterfront project had a some proponents and a lot of them were developer types and union trade representatives (plumbing, sheet metal, etc.) and people that rarely use the on-the-water recreation available.
The majority of the local speakers were for some type of revitalization of the aging facilities and seawalls and the existing parking structure...but for the most part they were against the concrete canyon that Harbor Drive might become with the massive 30'+ tall parking structure that's proposed.
As you can see from the (poor) photos I took from their video feed yesterday it's a big project and the kayakers will get "FORKED" if it goes through as proposed. Our wonderful hand launch dock will be gone and the lagoon will be open to the sea (to become a new Sea Lion Beach like La Jolla).
Kayak launching will be through the new lagoon area and parking is in the huge parking structure.
This is what the area looks like now...


Here is a shot of the proposed "open to the water" lagoon with a retail area just above it and the Huge parking structure at the upper left...



This is a couple of photos I took today of the model they have in the old "On the Rocks" bar...as you can see, there is really no provisions made for a proper drop-off and lots of stairs for access to the sand area...





This is the developers suggestions...



Lastly...here is what the road between the retail shops and the parking structure will look like on you walk to the launch...LOL

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Old 04-14-2018, 12:53 AM   #2
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Hand launch

Typical government view of their world . Redondo trying screw up what they are . They are not some waterfront circus , in the Summer parking lots are over flowing traffic can get bad .
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Old 04-14-2018, 06:24 PM   #3
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Improve access my ass! Do they think we pull our kayaks out of our pockets? Poof! Kayak!
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:17 AM   #4
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I'm guessing 30 dollars all day parking to cover the cost of there new retail shops... That sand is going to be crap to wheel the kayaks in...and if you don't bring your wheels with you... Your kayak and gear with be up for grabs by the time you get to your car and back.
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:56 AM   #5
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That sand is going to be crap to wheel the kayaks in...and if you don't bring your wheels with you... Your kayak and gear with be up for grabs by the time you get to your car and back.

Since I have not been to La Jolla (for kayak fishing that is), what is the difference?

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"poof kayak" that is how an inflatable kayak works.

If the model is correct, looks like the Polly's and tackle shop will be back on the pier.
Maybe we get validation once more.
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Old 04-15-2018, 02:59 PM   #6
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OMG... what a sh*t show... ugh!
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:12 PM   #7
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So the hand launch is screwed

what about the mandatory boat ramp it is missing from the remodel?


I thought the boat ramp was required by CA Coastal commission
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:26 PM   #8
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The boat ramp is still manditory for a permit for the Waterfront project....and they are still tossing around location options and the financial requirements and logistics for the ramp.
The Coastal Commission insists that the ramp needs to be built...the $1,000,000+ question is WHERE...?
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:29 PM   #9
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Maximum revenue and minimum utility. Isn't that the motto of California politics? That (2 or 3 car) dropoff area for kayaks should work fine in the winter months before 7am. Sharing that small launch with swimmers is a great idea also! There is also a big difference in the average class of people that hang out around Redondo and La Jolla at night.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:41 PM   #10
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Parking Validations- RB BOAT HOIST total $12.00

I need to go test the Price for Kings harbor: (correct me if anyone knows any better)

4 dollar parking with boat hoist validation
8 dollars for boat hoist fee is for a round trip for a hand launch size boat

Total for parking is $12.00

according to : http://www.rbmarina.com/marina-services/

At the bottom of the page it says Validation with boat hoist $4.00 for 12 hrs w/ hoist validation – $8.00 overnight per 24 hr. – Must pay at hoist ( NO un-attached Trailers )




The five-ton hoist in Redondo Beach Marina, are capable of hoisting boats up to 10,000 pounds and 30 feet in length. The Boat Hoist is open every day of the year except Christmas, and winter hours are from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. on weekdays and from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. on weekends. The extended summer hours begin Memorial Day Weekend. The fee is for a round trip, and prices range from $8.00 for a hand launch size boat, personal watercraft – $18.00, for 18 to 24ft – $30.00, for 25ft and over $40.00. Late returns and stay-overs are sometimes available by prior arrangement for an additional fee. For further information contact 310-374-3481.
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:29 PM   #11
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deal

"8 dollars for boat hoist fee is for a round trip for a hand launch size boat"

Sounds like a deal to me, to have them launch that big tandem beast of a Hobie for $8...!
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