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Old 05-10-2017, 03:17 PM   #1
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Favorite Rapala to troll ?

What is your favorite rapala to troll at kayak speed? Looking for one to use while trolling a live bait. I recently stuck a good yellow while trolling a cd-18 on a boat but clearly it would be difficult to do 6-7 knots on a kayak. Anybody have any suggestions on one that you can use at slower speeds and are kayak friendly?
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:16 PM   #2
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You could always just troll the real thing and pin on a greenback. If not i have trolled x-raps in the 5 inch size around succefully but you have to hot rod them with new hooks and split rings.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:16 PM   #3
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You could always just troll the real thing and pin on a greenback. If not i have trolled x-raps in the 5 inch size around succefully but you have to hot rod them with new hooks and split rings.
Johnny, can you be more specific about the hooks? Lighter or heavier than as sold, single or treble? Is the idea to go lighter with the hardware to get more action at lower speed? Thanks!
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:24 PM   #4
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Hi Brian. I used either a Rapala count down 5 1/2" magnum or a Rapala X Rap 5 1/2" magnum both in a green back mac color. I used to troll those a lot when bait was hard to find or in the shallower area when there were too many sea lions. Unfortunately I lost my last one, last summer to that pesky Hammerhead shark that was around LJ for most of the summer. Now I mostly catch enough live macs to out number the ones the frickin sea lions steal.
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:10 AM   #5
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I like these because they have wider lips and have better action than the big xraps at kayak speed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0017...rb_top?ie=UTF8
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:50 AM   #6
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Try an Xrap Mag 5 (if you can find them), they are smaller versions and don't take as much speed to get them down. Or a 10, those will work okay too.

If your interested in bass, troll one of these near the kelp or even in open areas...

https://www.amazon.com/Rapala-Husky-...own+Deep+Husky

Calico's love em...
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Old 05-11-2017, 07:19 AM   #7
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Johnny, can you be more specific about the hooks? Lighter or heavier than as sold, single or treble? Is the idea to go lighter with the hardware to get more action at lower speed? Thanks!
I forget the exact kind, but the hooks are slightely larger. It's just more important to get the beefed up thicker hooks if using the smaller x-raps so that you don't straighten out a hook. I cant remember for the life of me what hardware i used but the main goal was to strengthen it and try to keep weight generally the same.
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:26 AM   #8
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I forget the exact kind, but the hooks are slightely larger. It's just more important to get the beefed up thicker hooks if using the smaller x-raps so that you don't straighten out a hook. I cant remember for the life of me what hardware i used but the main goal was to strengthen it and try to keep weight generally the same.
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Thanks, Johnny! I got home last night and got out one and I could see right away what you meant, the hooks supplied are on the light side. Fewer but bigger hooks is a balancing act. :-)
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:42 AM   #9
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Well, it's not a Rapala, but I picked up a few of these Williamson mackerel from Overstock bait the last order, cheap at 7 bucks. Haven't had a chance to tow one around yet - but I have high hopes. they are set up to easily install a stinger, which I'll be doing before use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPHiMOri3Y
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:11 PM   #10
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Not a Rapala, but for bass, big macs, bonito, cuda etc.. I've had pretty good luck with trolling shimano waxwings.
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Old 05-11-2017, 02:06 PM   #11
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I've had luck for bass with the shadow raps in the yellow perch color posted earlier. Little more of a topwater bite though than that deep diver.

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Well, it's not a Rapala, but I picked up a few of these Williamson mackerel from Overstock bait the last order, cheap at 7 bucks. Haven't had a chance to tow one around yet - but I have high hopes. they are set up to easily install a stinger, which I'll be doing before use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPHiMOri3Y
I bought a few also during their last sale. Will be interesting to tow around and see what happens.
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Old 05-11-2017, 03:49 PM   #12
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I don't spend the time to use live bait but that's the best. I would love to hear how those Williamson soft baits work. Be sure to post up. They look great....but I've used lots of lures that look great and don't get hit. I just troll cheap rapala knockoffs and change out the hooks to 4X strong AND the split rings. The cheap ones and the small rapalas use junk that will get maybe one fish before they bend or open up. I don't worry about the balance. Lost two fish yesterday because the split rings came apart.
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Old 05-11-2017, 04:44 PM   #13
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hard to beat a cd14 rapala blue mac color. catches everything and works everywhere. good luck jim
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:58 PM   #14
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X Rap Mag 20, Wahoo UV, and Blue Sardine so many yellowtail fell victim.. CD 14 Firetiger if your trying to catch threshers.
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:34 AM   #15
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Rebel Jointed 4.5" silver blue. Change hooks.

http://www.rebellures.com/rebel-join...w-fishing-lure

This was Neil Kelly's favorite lure. He is the guy who wrote the original "Baja Catch"
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Old 05-12-2017, 08:32 AM   #16
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Yo-yo makes a line of salt water grade Chrystal minnows. Several sizes and colors in deep and shallow diving. They don't need a fast speed to work but do stay stable at higher speeds.

I've caught fish on them in LJ and sea of Cortez. Some work well casting too.
That said I've never done particularly well on plugs and generally only use them when I can't catch bait.
I've had more success trolling heavier swim baits.
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