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Old 06-24-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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someone once asked me, "why do you have so many f-en leashes on your yak"
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:22 PM   #2
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I flipped on my first trip out too and lost about $800 in gear. I flipped after turning back reaching for my game clip 30 yards from bait barge. I was surprised how easy the cobra flipped. my center shifted and in I went; it was that easy.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:43 PM   #3
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Dylan,

It was nice meeting you even though you had just gone through the ringer.

I didn't manage to find any of your gear after several drifts through the area you mentioned.

Keep your chin up, and take this expensive lesson for what it is worth. Much better to lose some replaceable gear then to get hurt or end up dead. I second the recomendation to take out the yak and get more comfortable with it before heading out with a bunch of gear again.

It was pretty choppy out there by the barge, and the cattle boats don't ever seem to follow the 10 MPH rule and kick up huge wakes, especially out near the entrance to the harbor. There were a couple of times when I was turned around getting a bait yesterday that I felt that balance shift happeneing but I was able to correct in time.

Keep at it and don't give up! This is just a speed bump on the way to killer fishing for you!
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:16 PM   #4
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Welcome to the community, sorry it happened on your maiden voyage. Don't beat yourself up, I hope to see lots of successful reports from ya!
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #5
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The second time I flipped was when the bait tank and kayak was empty

Thanks all for words of encouragement.
Thanks you Wes for the attempt to recover my lost gear.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:34 PM   #6
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Insurance

Check your insurance if you have homeowners. A few years ago I got flipped by a whale and lost all of my gear. Usaa covered the entire thing......minus deductible.

It was worth the phone call.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:55 PM   #7
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A sad story, but as was stated before, At least you are here to fish another day. Gear is expensive but your life is priceless.
If you need some gear PM me and I will help you out.
Fish on brother!
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:00 PM   #8
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Man that suks I was pissed losing my lil tackle box of owner hooks last time I went out lj. I thought it be safe in the little net pocket of my hobie. To my dismay I lost it while lauching. So I only could imagine how you feel
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:27 PM   #9
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A sad story, but as was stated before, At least you are here to fish another day. Gear is expensive but your life is priceless.
If you need some gear PM me and I will help you out.
Fish on brother!
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I don't have a bunch of extras, but I do have a couple of extras I'd be happy to part with.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:09 PM   #10
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yakattack, what is your weight if you don't mind me asking, and what type of kayak did you buy?


It sounds like

A) you might be too heavy withall your gear for your kayak.
The Ocean Scrambler 11 only holds about 300 to 350lbs so this plus a bucket full of water can make you top heavy, if your a heavyset person.


b) you might of just lost your balance because you were not paying attention to the swells and water, also make sure you don't have a leak.


Everyone on this website has lost alot of items during their first few months, but some of us have to learn the hard way.Some people don't learn their lesson and still lose things.

Yes, it terrible that you made such a mistake, but its good to look back and get up and not give up because that is the only true failure in life.




I learned this the hard way:




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Who should sit at the front of the Kayak?
I own a tandem cobra kayak, holds 600lbs. I am a 260lbs 6ft tall male. My friend is 6.9ft and 220 lbs. I read that the heavier person should sit in the stern section of the kayak, but we found it easier for the taller person to sit it the back. Whenever my 6.9 ft friend sat on the bow we would capsize, i assume because he couldn't keep his balance.

We also had trouble keeping out balance when a huge wake of a boat hit us.

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Now please keep in mind, that the only equipment we carry is the paddles and life vest. This is a sit on top kayak and we did not capsize once when the male 6ft tall 260lbs person sat in the front.

3 years ago
Now usually when i go out, i put my seat in the middle of the kayak and take my 30lb daughter with me. I have never capsized this way and we always stay inside of the marinas.

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Would it be easier to just make the cobra tandem a one seater by adjusting the seat near the middle and renting a second kayak like a cobra fish and dive for the other person?

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There are Kayaks for "Tall & Large" just as there are speciality men's shops.

I agree, the tallest should sit in the rear... but that is not the problem here.

Your problem is not who is sitting in the front... it is simply that your kayak is too small. Legally, Kayak manufacturers do not have to rate their vessels on any type of "stability" factors - only capacity weight. So "technically" you could fill the inside of your kayak with 600lbs of lead (all down in the hull) and all would be fine. But add half that weight to the top of the kayak (rather then the inside) and it will capsize every time.

Your problem is you guys are both too tall & too large for that kayak. I realize the boat manuel or capacity plate may say it will hold 600lbs but that (alone) is not a good representation of the vessel's stability. At almost 500 lbs the two of you plus equipment & gear, etc. are pushing the very limit.

If you weigh all your gear, equipment, beverage & beverage cooler, etc. you will probably find you are within 10% of the maximum load limit. If you are both broad in the shoulders, your weight is high, and the boat is low in the water. This of course makes it extremely unstable.

Loaded to within 10% of capacity, a lot of vessels (not just kayaks) would capsize if a few people more then half walked over to starboard. In fact, a houseboat with the exact number of people stated on it's mfg's capacity plate recently capsized because too many of them were on the upper deck.

I suggest you get a kayak made for "Tall & Large" kayakers...
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:54 PM   #11
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dude, that sucks! i did my first surf launch in samo and took a beating, broke a rod and almost lost another. my leash even broke on it.

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someone once asked me, "why do you have so many f-en leashes on your yak"
definitely invest in leashes! i'm terrible about this but I just got new material to make all new leashes.
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