CA $crews it up again - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Flounder · 09-07-2018, 07:46 PM

Yeah who cares about normal people, but with the 3 billion they are adding to the CA tab with the "bail reform" bill they passed, this state sucks donkey and is already a criminal safe haven, I feel they don't want much that is common sense. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to live here under this states rules and regs.

Mahigeer · 09-07-2018, 10:37 PM

On the other hand, I am glad to live here.

FISH11 · 09-08-2018, 08:12 AM

I received the email about the results from CSL, so I knew before this post. I will tell you the same thing I put to them in my reason to be unsubscribed. The post made it sound as if the whole reason for the pulling of the bill was solely due to the Governor or the Democratic party. Regardless of ones political persuasion, it is stupid to think that is the real reason, when instead the problem just as in Washington, it's all about somebody is making lot's of money the way things are. The last thing these people want to do is share any of that money. There is no reason to have added to the bill that there should be an increase in cost for the option to buy it as a 12 month license instead of always ending on December 31st. The cost of the license is not the issue of declining purchases. It has more to do with all the other increased cost of everything we have to buy and wages not keeping up. When studies have shown the the average american has the same buying power they had in 1974. Wages suck, but the car that was $3000 in 1974 is now $27,000, so from $5 to $48 for a license is hardly the reason. Blame all politicians for always trying to get more from the hard working American (politicians are not in that category)

DPevin · 09-10-2018, 12:02 PM

All I know is I was just in Idaho visiting my parents....my dad paid only $38 for a combo hunting/fishing license.

Those of us who care enough to buy our license every year at the beginning of the year it won't make a difference for us so long as we retain the option to buy the calendar year license. So let them charge more, why oppose it?

Although, I don't see how a 12 month option would be the answer to raising participation. Seems like the folks it would matter for would be more inclined to get the shorter term licenses anyway.

Mahigeer · 09-10-2018, 02:19 PM

There must be good reason why vehicle license plate tags are not from Jan-Dec.

Drivers license, Contractors license, passports, Sentri card……...etc.. etc.

The list is very long.

I know personally Utah and BC, Canada have 12 month fishing licenses.

For those who are hooked and honest, the cost of license makes little difference.

A great Xmas gift is the yearly fishing license given by the family members to the angler for now.

My feeling is that we will have it eventually.

speedydk · 09-11-2018, 06:55 AM

Personally I don't feel they have any incentive to change things to improve fishing/hunting license sales. I think the point is they are trying to do away with outdoors activities in the long run. A lack of sales is a perfect reason to suspend any and all of those "activities" since there would no longer be enough funding for the DFW. That seems to be the goal to me. They would like nothing better than for us all to stop all our outdoor activities and just stay home and pay our taxes. Now be good little sheep and stop making waves just go to work and pay your taxes. Note at the beginning I said "personally" this is just the way I see things my views/opinions. But I think if we hope to keep enjoying the outdoors at all then it would behoove us to go ahead and buy our licences at the beginning of the year or pay for the year even if its June when we buy the license. I think this might be one of those penny wise dollar foolish things. Just my opinion and yes I buy my license every year even though lately I only get out a few times a year. Sorry rant over.
Darren

09-08-2018, 08:12 AM	#3
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,636	I received the email about the results from CSL, so I knew before this post. I will tell you the same thing I put to them in my reason to be unsubscribed. The post made it sound as if the whole reason for the pulling of the bill was solely due to the Governor or the Democratic party. Regardless of ones political persuasion, it is stupid to think that is the real reason, when instead the problem just as in Washington, it's all about somebody is making lot's of money the way things are. The last thing these people want to do is share any of that money. There is no reason to have added to the bill that there should be an increase in cost for the option to buy it as a 12 month license instead of always ending on December 31st. The cost of the license is not the issue of declining purchases. It has more to do with all the other increased cost of everything we have to buy and wages not keeping up. When studies have shown the the average american has the same buying power they had in 1974. Wages suck, but the car that was $3000 in 1974 is now $27,000, so from $5 to $48 for a license is hardly the reason. Blame all politicians for always trying to get more from the hard working American (politicians are not in that category) __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

09-07-2018, 07:46 PM	#1
Flounder Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 101	Yeah who cares about normal people, but with the 3 billion they are adding to the CA tab with the "bail reform" bill they passed, this state sucks donkey and is already a criminal safe haven, I feel they don't want much that is common sense. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to live here under this states rules and regs.

09-07-2018, 10:37 PM	#2
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,863	On the other hand, I am glad to live here.

09-10-2018, 12:02 PM	#4
DPevin Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dana Point Posts: 96	All I know is I was just in Idaho visiting my parents....my dad paid only $38 for a combo hunting/fishing license. Those of us who care enough to buy our license every year at the beginning of the year it won't make a difference for us so long as we retain the option to buy the calendar year license. So let them charge more, why oppose it? Although, I don't see how a 12 month option would be the answer to raising participation. Seems like the folks it would matter for would be more inclined to get the shorter term licenses anyway.

09-10-2018, 02:19 PM	#5
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,863	There must be good reason why vehicle license plate tags are not from Jan-Dec. Drivers license, Contractors license, passports, Sentri card……...etc.. etc. The list is very long. I know personally Utah and BC, Canada have 12 month fishing licenses. For those who are hooked and honest, the cost of license makes little difference. A great Xmas gift is the yearly fishing license given by the family members to the angler for now. My feeling is that we will have it eventually.

09-11-2018, 06:55 AM	#6
speedydk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orange County Ca. Posts: 99	Personally I don't feel they have any incentive to change things to improve fishing/hunting license sales. I think the point is they are trying to do away with outdoors activities in the long run. A lack of sales is a perfect reason to suspend any and all of those "activities" since there would no longer be enough funding for the DFW. That seems to be the goal to me. They would like nothing better than for us all to stop all our outdoor activities and just stay home and pay our taxes. Now be good little sheep and stop making waves just go to work and pay your taxes. Note at the beginning I said "personally" this is just the way I see things my views/opinions. But I think if we hope to keep enjoying the outdoors at all then it would behoove us to go ahead and buy our licences at the beginning of the year or pay for the year even if its June when we buy the license. I think this might be one of those penny wise dollar foolish things. Just my opinion and yes I buy my license every year even though lately I only get out a few times a year. Sorry rant over. Darren