Fish ID? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Vikingj · 03-12-2016, 02:33 PM

Can you identify this fish? C&R'ed Thurs at Dana Point. Taken on sardine near bottom. Considered it being a young BSB (which have highly variable patterns) but doesn't fit descriptions or pics in my 3 ichthyology references.

YakDout · 03-12-2016, 02:43 PM

Those spots are tell tale. Bsb

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Dannowar · 03-12-2016, 02:46 PM

why would you put that on a stringer?

I've been told by DFW that once a fish is on a stringer that its "in your possession" so I'm not really sure where they fall if you "C&R'd" it

probably did it more harm than good....

f'nsabiki · 03-12-2016, 02:56 PM

OP--I would delete this post if I were you.

Dave Legacy · 03-12-2016, 03:00 PM

BSB, no doubt about it.

bolocop · 03-12-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

OP--I would delete this post if I were you.

I wouldn't suggest that either. You could be interfering with a justice investigation if someone has forwarded to DFG. This thread is getting dicey.

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Silbaugh4liberty · 03-12-2016, 04:42 PM

Really, someone here would do that?

Flyak13 · 03-12-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bolocop

I wouldn't suggest that either. You could be interfering with a justice investigation if someone has forwarded to DFG. This thread is getting dicey.

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So how exactly would deleting this post be interfering with an investigation that may or may not be taking place ? Oh yes i forgot this is bwe and you guys know everything , dude can and should delete it , as he has every right to not self incriminate himself , now ... Why in the hell would you throw a fish that you can't positively id but think it might be a bsb on a game clip ? Then go post a picture on a website full of cry babies? now you've got assholes like me rolling their eyes and asking themselves wtf is this guys malfunction? I mean this right here takes a special kind of stupid, if it's on the clip, it's considered taken by dfg and even with a successful release you can still possibly be cited and fined.

f'nsabiki · 03-14-2016, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

OP--I would delete this post if I were you.

Like I said----No good was ever going to come from this post.

Vikingj · 03-12-2016, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

why would you put that on a stringer?

I've been told by DFW that once a fish is on a stringer that its "in your possession" so I'm not really sure where they fall if you "C&R'd" it

probably did it more harm than good....

I did not catch the fish or put it on a stringer. Another kayaker saw me fishing nearby and came over to ask what it was. I wasn't absolutely sure but suggested it could be a bsb. I asked if I could take a pic to ID at home and he decided to release it in case I was right. Originally I couldn't find a matching description or pic but tonight I found the exact picture (in Field Guide to Pacific Coast Fishes, Eschmeyer et al) labeled as a junior Giant Sea Bass (aka BSB). I'm innocent!

Murray · 03-13-2016, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingj

I did not catch the fish or put it on a stringer. Another kayaker saw me fishing nearby and came over to ask what it was. I wasn't absolutely sure but suggested it could be a bsb. I asked if I could take a pic to ID at home and he decided to release it in case I was right. Originally I couldn't find a matching description or pic but tonight I found the exact picture (in Field Guide to Pacific Coast Fishes, Eschmeyer et al) labeled as a junior Giant Sea Bass (aka BSB). I'm innocent!

Glad to hear sir. Sorry you had to experience some of the posts. Thanks again for posting.

HobieScot · 03-12-2016, 03:02 PM

We were spear fishing in Catalina and got boarded by DFG. All was good with us but they did mention that the boat fishing 100 yards from us caught and kept a baby/young BSB thinking it was something else which according to the DFG netted that fisherman a minimum of a $3k fine and could go upwards of $10k depending on other circumstances

When in doubt don't even bring it on board to remove the hook. If I can't absolutely ID a fish it won't ever leave the water

rossman · 03-12-2016, 03:28 PM

Nothing but a head shake from me.

nickc5 · 03-14-2016, 04:29 PM

Haha. SARL at its finest. I didn't say I ate it, but cashed in. Another tourney in 2 weeks. The CA state recorded is apparently in the lake as we speak.

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domtesta27 · 03-14-2016, 04:54 PM

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Haha. SARL at its finest. I didn't say I ate it, but cashed in. Another tourney in 2 weeks. The CA state recorded is apparently in the lake as we speak.

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Wait so you killed the fish but didn't eat it? Just chucked it in the trash? That just made my stomach drop. This is why I haven't gone to the Santa Anna River Lakes or any of the other stocker lakes here in socal. I couldn't imagine landing my first 10lb + rainbow knowing it came out of a hatchery the day before, eating pellets. it just doesn't count.

Neither would a state record coming out of those ponds. This is like catching a state record WSB out of the breeding pens and calling it a record.....

jorluivil · 03-14-2016, 04:59 PM

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YakDout · 03-14-2016, 05:07 PM

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nickc5 · 03-14-2016, 05:15 PM

lol. I gave it away guy.

Also, majority (key word here) of the trout you will catch ANYWHERE, are farm raised trout. Granted there are wild trout that can be caught. Unless you go to Alaska, like myself from the tourney I won last year at SARL, you'll have a chance at landing some wild ones.

So what were you saying? I'm saying I'm $1400 richer in the past 2 weeks from fishing and won a trip to Alaska along with $1k, and 3 fishing pole setups.

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03-12-2016, 02:33 PM	#1
Vikingj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dana Point area Posts: 438	Fish ID? Can you identify this fish? C&R'ed Thurs at Dana Point. Taken on sardine near bottom. Considered it being a young BSB (which have highly variable patterns) but doesn't fit descriptions or pics in my 3 ichthyology references. Attached Images

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Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	why would you put that on a stringer? I've been told by DFW that once a fish is on a stringer that its "in your possession" so I'm not really sure where they fall if you "C&R'd" it probably did it more harm than good.... __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

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HobieScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 370	Fish ID? We were spear fishing in Catalina and got boarded by DFG. All was good with us but they did mention that the boat fishing 100 yards from us caught and kept a baby/young BSB thinking it was something else which according to the DFG netted that fisherman a minimum of a $3k fine and could go upwards of $10k depending on other circumstances When in doubt don't even bring it on board to remove the hook. If I can't absolutely ID a fish it won't ever leave the water

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rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	Nothing but a head shake from me. __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

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YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	Those spots are tell tale. Bsb Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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f'nsabiki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 304	OP--I would delete this post if I were you.

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Dave Legacy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA Posts: 427	BSB, no doubt about it.

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nickc5 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Placentia Posts: 186	Haha. SARL at its finest. I didn't say I ate it, but cashed in. Another tourney in 2 weeks. The CA state recorded is apparently in the lake as we speak. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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nickc5 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Placentia Posts: 186	lol. I gave it away guy. Also, majority (key word here) of the trout you will catch ANYWHERE, are farm raised trout. Granted there are wild trout that can be caught. Unless you go to Alaska, like myself from the tourney I won last year at SARL, you'll have a chance at landing some wild ones. So what were you saying? I'm saying I'm $1400 richer in the past 2 weeks from fishing and won a trip to Alaska along with $1k, and 3 fishing pole setups. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk