Dogged by those Rascally SeaDogs!!!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

GoGoGoJack · 10-06-2015, 06:06 AM

Helpful to know Yakdout!!!! Very good to know re heavier line.... Are you 1) braid to leader, 2) braid to mono to leader, or 3) braid to mono to hook, 4) all mono, 5) other??? Very interested....

blitzburgh · 10-06-2015, 06:47 AM

Nice work!

YakDout · 10-06-2015, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GoGoGoJack

Helpful to know Yakdoubt!!!! Very good to know re heavier line.... Are you 1) braid to leader, 2) braid to mono to leader, or 3) braid to mono to hook, 4) all mono, 5) other??? Very interested....

50lb spectra to 3-4 ft 35lb blackwater flouro leader. Using improved albright knot for connection. My friend does the same but uses 40lb. Ive been broken off on 25lb a couple too times. I still use 30 occasionally but get bit on 35-40 just fine, so no reason to go down in line.

GoGoGoJack · 10-06-2015, 09:14 PM

Thx Yakdout! I will give it a try with the 50 to 35! That should greatly reduce the fighting time and allow me to tighten up the drag!!!

taggermike · 10-07-2015, 07:18 AM

Great trip and report. I tend to describe sea lions in harsher terms than "rascally". I'd recommended using heavier line than 20 lb. Spending 1/2 hour fighting a fish gives the dogs plenty of time to find you. And with lobster season in swing there are going to be 100s/1000s of traps out. YT will wrap in trap lines and break you off. So heavier line is the way to go. Ive been running my baits a bit closer to the yak this year and being extremely vigilant looking and listening for dogs. I can usually wind in n put the bait in tank before the dog can rip me off. They'll chill under the yak for a while trying to wait you out. I throw an iron for a bit and they'll often zip over to the splash a couple tines before they swim off. With bait so hard to catch now losing a couple to dogs can be a major set back. Its kinda strange, I would never go on a Baja trip with out taking at least a dozen crocs. But I rarely use them locally. I gotta put a couple in my box. Mike

TINCANYAK · 10-07-2015, 09:01 AM

Hi Jack,
Nice post. Steve and I went out past Barber Poles Saturday hitting one bird feeding frenzy for one big hit before it dissipated then up to the Strand....nada. LJ was the best bet that weekend. I use 60 spectra to 40 floro just to get jigs and line back out of the kelp. Rolled it also on the first return....just like everyone else has at some point. Have you heard anything from Rich?
John

Vikingj · 10-10-2015, 12:52 PM

Super job, Jack! and thank you for the report. From DP to LJ the YT are trembling w fear. I need to take my krocodile along for backup when bait is scarce. As for the early morning bath...you probably needed it. I thought I detected a "gamey" smell when we were fishing together last time!

10-06-2015, 06:06 AM	#1
GoGoGoJack Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South Orange County Posts: 30	Helpful to know Yakdout!!!! Very good to know re heavier line.... Are you 1) braid to leader, 2) braid to mono to leader, or 3) braid to mono to hook, 4) all mono, 5) other??? Very interested.... Last edited by GoGoGoJack; 10-07-2015 at 04:02 AM. Reason: Typo fix

10-06-2015, 06:47 AM	#2
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	Nice work! __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

10-06-2015, 09:14 PM	#4
GoGoGoJack Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South Orange County Posts: 30	Thx Yakdout! I will give it a try with the 50 to 35! That should greatly reduce the fighting time and allow me to tighten up the drag!!!

10-07-2015, 07:18 AM	#5
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Great trip and report. I tend to describe sea lions in harsher terms than "rascally". I'd recommended using heavier line than 20 lb. Spending 1/2 hour fighting a fish gives the dogs plenty of time to find you. And with lobster season in swing there are going to be 100s/1000s of traps out. YT will wrap in trap lines and break you off. So heavier line is the way to go. Ive been running my baits a bit closer to the yak this year and being extremely vigilant looking and listening for dogs. I can usually wind in n put the bait in tank before the dog can rip me off. They'll chill under the yak for a while trying to wait you out. I throw an iron for a bit and they'll often zip over to the splash a couple tines before they swim off. With bait so hard to catch now losing a couple to dogs can be a major set back. Its kinda strange, I would never go on a Baja trip with out taking at least a dozen crocs. But I rarely use them locally. I gotta put a couple in my box. Mike

10-07-2015, 09:01 AM	#6
TINCANYAK Junior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: San Clemente Posts: 16	Hi Jack, Nice post. Steve and I went out past Barber Poles Saturday hitting one bird feeding frenzy for one big hit before it dissipated then up to the Strand....nada. LJ was the best bet that weekend. I use 60 spectra to 40 floro just to get jigs and line back out of the kelp. Rolled it also on the first return....just like everyone else has at some point. Have you heard anything from Rich? John

10-10-2015, 12:52 PM	#7
Vikingj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dana Point area Posts: 438	Super job, Jack! and thank you for the report. From DP to LJ the YT are trembling w fear. I need to take my krocodile along for backup when bait is scarce. As for the early morning bath...you probably needed it. I thought I detected a "gamey" smell when we were fishing together last time!