Kayaker rescue La Jolla - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

bolocop · 11-04-2015, 02:40 PM

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...la-jolla-cove/

5-6 foot swells today...

momo fish · 11-04-2015, 02:48 PM

Had all the safety equipment needed in case of situation like this but missed the best safety equipment.. Weather report 😳

It's been nasty out the last few days..

Goose1993 · 11-04-2015, 02:57 PM

Half a mile offshore? And they didn't just swim in?

They had to have been farther off...

Deamon · 11-04-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose1993

Half a mile offshore? And they didn't just swim in? They had to have been farther off...

Kind of a bull shit comment right there. If anything, question their decision to go out but that's it.

Sounds like a tandem. If so, multiply the challenges of two peeps climbing back on in rough water. These people probably had some clothes on, water a bit on the chilly side, winds, lost some gear or had it all hung up and dangling. MUCH BETTER to make the call sooner than later. I'm thinking you probably don't have much experience with LJ's current...

Jim

ful-rac · 11-04-2015, 03:24 PM

What a hater!

Jim Sammons LJKF · 11-04-2015, 03:37 PM

Small craft advisory today, why would you even go out. There is always another day to go out. We see a lot of people get in trouble because they get out in conditions where they overestimate their abilities and underestimate they power of the ocean.
Good to hear they had on PFD's and had safety gear at least.

Goose1993 · 11-04-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

Kind of a bull shit comment right there. If anything, question their decision to go out but that's it.

Sounds like a tandem. If so, multiply the challenges of two peeps climbing back on in rough water. These people probably had some clothes on, water a bit on the chilly side, winds, lost some gear or had it all hung up and dangling. MUCH BETTER to make the call sooner than later. I'm thinking you probably don't have much experience with LJ's current...

Jim

Kind of a bitch comment right there. I'm guessing you're also the kind of person who suggests kayaking in the bay for 6 months before taking your kayak into the ocean to master this activity that is SSOOOO DIFFICULT.

And yes I have tons of experience in la Jolla. I'm sure Ive experienced much stronger currents surfing the cove when it occasionally breaks than when I'm fishing it off of a kayak... Or swimming through churned up water at horseshoe after breaking a leash and having my board go to shore.

Dannowar · 11-04-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose1993

Kind of a bitch comment right there. I'm guessing you're also the kind of person who suggests kayaking in the bay for 6 months before taking your kayak into the ocean to master this activity that is SSOOOO DIFFICULT.

And yes I have tons of experience in la Jolla. I'm sure Ive experienced much stronger currents surfing the cove when it occasionally breaks than when I'm fishing it off of a kayak... Or swimming through churned up water at horseshoe after breaking a leash and having my board go to shore.

cove is a mushburger. surf blacks or GTFO

edit: also having surfed la jolla my entire life, i dove the outer kelp a month ago and the current was so strong when i got off my kayak i was 30 yards away within seconds. its a lot different in open water guy. You surf horseshoe? thats cool....theres channels on both sides and the inner reef is forgiving as well. you must not fish often if you've never seen so much current that the kelp disappears. its cool though, keep talking like you didn't just pick up a kayak and luck into some yt in the easiest year to catch one in your lifetime.

summers in kuwait · 11-05-2015, 07:36 AM

I think one thing to remember when posting is that there is a range of experience on this forum and out on the water.

I was born and raised in S.D. and have surfed Blacks, Windansea and Garbage on a 9+ single fin. I also lived in Humboldt County and have launched in some pretty sketchy conditions both in the ocean and fast moving rivers.

That said, I would encourage anyone (newbies and experienced waterpeople) to start off in the bay or calmer waters for whatever time it takes to feel more comfortable and get your bearings. Even a seasoned veteran can get cocky or too drunk/high (if such a thing) and forget that Mother Nature is in charge.

As mentioned, there is always another day. Be safe.

jorluivil · 11-05-2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Goose1993

Half a mile offshore? And they didn't just swim in?

They had to have been farther off...

Have you ever had to swim while wearing a PFD? I’ve tried it myself and I can assure you that at best it’s difficult.

momo fish · 11-05-2015, 09:24 AM

They probably were further out or could be with the conditions at the time it seemed like miles out. I'm still amazed how bad LJ can get when its bad.. I'll take the worst day at Malibu or Gaviota any day over a bad day at LJ..

As for swimming back in, that's way off to assume they had the ability to do so.. Questioning someone's ability to yours is wrong.. I'm sure you have your limits and if someone questions that you would say they are wrong as well.. Just put yourself in other shoes and not compare your ability to yours..

That's all people are saying.. You can argue or just accept that what you said was wrong..

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Originally Posted by Goose1993

Half a mile offshore? And they didn't just swim in?

They had to have been farther off...

momo fish · 11-04-2015, 03:45 PM

The worst weather and condition I have ever been out in was in LJ (right John & Jemie!!) and the best condition I have ever been out in has been LJ... That should should tell you a lot about LJ and how conditions can change..

That being said, I don't understand why take the risk but I'm sure they had their reasons.. Heck even the rental shops didn't let people out which says a lot..

ctfphoto · 11-04-2015, 04:11 PM

I rescued two guys and did not make the news

Mr. NiceGuy · 11-04-2015, 04:38 PM

Apparently, they are safe. That's the important part.

In the meantime, it's a good lesson for all of us.

Live and learn.

Harry Hill · 11-04-2015, 04:41 PM

I looked at the cam today and saw whitecaps but I didn't see anyone launch[I[/I], the surf was pretty rough also. Didn't look like a good day to be out in any small craft.

RK · 11-04-2015, 05:22 PM

Prob heard the yellowtail tuna were running.........

Stuck20 · 11-04-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hill

I looked at the cam today and saw whitecaps but I didn't see anyone launch[I[/I], the surf was pretty rough also. Didn't look like a good day to be out in any small craft.

It was insanely windy today. Today was supposed to be my first LJ trip, but got to the launch and NOPED out. Not worth the risk one bit.

Dannowar · 11-04-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ctfphoto

I rescued two guys and did not make the news

oh and to make the bashing even on all ends.....

we know bro, you've told us multiple times

Deamon · 11-05-2015, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

oh

Dannyman,

Can I just buy you a toy plastic kayak that you can hang on your rear view mirror?

That way, you can still claim...and jump into these threads and bitch slap others whether deserved or not. We're going to miss you...

Or wait...are you going to one of those boaters who just have to post their catches on a kayak website???

haha hahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Jim

Hammerhead_77 · 11-05-2015, 07:15 AM

All the flame throwing aside....(fun to watch; slow day)...

The only time I've ever flipped on open water was LJ with a nasty swell and wind going the other way... I had a friend right next to me that time and all was well.

Now I have a radio on my PFD, backup GPS and I carry 12g flares. My PA 14 has a hull full of pool noodles to fill up the empty space. I have USCG and SD Lifeguard dispatch on my phone too...

A mile may not seem that long when you're using a mirage drive, or when you are a skilled surfer, in shape and in a wet suit...but I would have a really hard time battling wave, wind and even a .5 knt current with no fins, a PDF and maybe some clothing. Chances of me swimming back in from a mile off the point in those conditions...not good.

I'd make the call early, before I was totally exhausted. 'Cause I love my life, my wife and my kids wayyyyy more than my pride!

11-04-2015, 02:40 PM	#1
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	Kayaker rescue La Jolla http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...la-jolla-cove/ 5-6 foot swells today...

11-04-2015, 03:24 PM	#5
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	What a hater! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

11-04-2015, 03:37 PM	#6
Jim Sammons LJKF Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 947	Small craft advisory today, why would you even go out. There is always another day to go out. We see a lot of people get in trouble because they get out in conditions where they overestimate their abilities and underestimate they power of the ocean. Good to hear they had on PFD's and had safety gear at least. __________________ Jim Sammons La Jolla Kayak Fishing The Kayak Fishing Show JimSammons.com

11-04-2015, 03:45 PM	#12
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	Kayaker rescue La Jolla The worst weather and condition I have ever been out in was in LJ (right John & Jemie!!) and the best condition I have ever been out in has been LJ... That should should tell you a lot about LJ and how conditions can change.. That being said, I don't understand why take the risk but I'm sure they had their reasons.. Heck even the rental shops didn't let people out which says a lot..

11-04-2015, 04:38 PM	#14
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 838	Apparently, they are safe. That's the important part. In the meantime, it's a good lesson for all of us. Live and learn. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

11-04-2015, 02:48 PM	#2
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	Had all the safety equipment needed in case of situation like this but missed the best safety equipment.. Weather report 😳 It's been nasty out the last few days..

11-04-2015, 02:57 PM	#3
Goose1993 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 115	Half a mile offshore? And they didn't just swim in? They had to have been farther off...

11-05-2015, 07:36 AM	#9
summers in kuwait Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: East County San Diego Posts: 657	I think one thing to remember when posting is that there is a range of experience on this forum and out on the water. I was born and raised in S.D. and have surfed Blacks, Windansea and Garbage on a 9+ single fin. I also lived in Humboldt County and have launched in some pretty sketchy conditions both in the ocean and fast moving rivers. That said, I would encourage anyone (newbies and experienced waterpeople) to start off in the bay or calmer waters for whatever time it takes to feel more comfortable and get your bearings. Even a seasoned veteran can get cocky or too drunk/high (if such a thing) and forget that Mother Nature is in charge. As mentioned, there is always another day. Be safe.

11-04-2015, 04:11 PM	#13
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	I rescued two guys and did not make the news

11-04-2015, 04:41 PM	#15
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I looked at the cam today and saw whitecaps but I didn't see anyone launch[I[/I], the surf was pretty rough also. Didn't look like a good day to be out in any small craft.

11-04-2015, 05:22 PM	#16
RK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 736	Prob heard the yellowtail tuna were running.........

11-05-2015, 07:15 AM	#20
Hammerhead_77 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego - North County Posts: 82	All the flame throwing aside....(fun to watch; slow day)... The only time I've ever flipped on open water was LJ with a nasty swell and wind going the other way... I had a friend right next to me that time and all was well. Now I have a radio on my PFD, backup GPS and I carry 12g flares. My PA 14 has a hull full of pool noodles to fill up the empty space. I have USCG and SD Lifeguard dispatch on my phone too... A mile may not seem that long when you're using a mirage drive, or when you are a skilled surfer, in shape and in a wet suit...but I would have a really hard time battling wave, wind and even a .5 knt current with no fins, a PDF and maybe some clothing. Chances of me swimming back in from a mile off the point in those conditions...not good. I'd make the call early, before I was totally exhausted. 'Cause I love my life, my wife and my kids wayyyyy more than my pride!