WSB Clipboarders Report - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

kurtfish · 05-18-2011, 12:42 PM

Subject: Hubbs Hatchery WSB caught near Monterey Bayffice

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A WSB head that we recently received from DFG sampling surveys of the commercial landings in Monterey was tagged! This is the first hatchery fish recovered north of Pt. Conception! >>
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Here are the stats for this individual:>>
Spawn date: 04-25-2000>>
Release date: 08-31-2000>>
Release location: Dana Pt. Harbor (launch ramp)>>
Release size: 161 mm TL (6 in)>>
> >
Recovery date: 9-28-2010>>
Age at recovery: 10.4 years>>
Recovery size: 1097 mm TL (43 in)>>
Recovery wt: 10.3 kg (23 lbs)>>
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>Michael A. Shane, M.S.>>
Research Scientist/Diving Safety Officer>>
Hubbs-SeaWorld Research Institute>>
2595 Ingraham Street>>
San Diego, CA 92109>>
>>
>I hope we will see many kayakers enter the Bill Poole Memorial Tournement to benefit Hubbs White Seabass replenishment program 7/30 - 7/31. If you can't make the fishing tourney or just prefer to eat fish instead of compete in a contest come on down for the BBQ and silent auction on 7/31 from 11am - 2pm. We are collecting many interesting and widely varied auction items and you could even win a raffle for just a couple bucks. A family friendly event with a tour of 40- 60lb Yellowtail tank and other aquaculture projects included with your modest entry fee.

See you there, Kurtfish

Hubbs Contest descriptions and BBQ form 2 pager (2).doc

Zed · 05-18-2011, 01:21 PM

That's awesome!
Go

go!

flydigital · 05-18-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtfish

Subject: Hubbs Hatchery WSB caught near Monterey Bayffice

ffice" />>>
> >
A WSB head that we recently received from DFG sampling surveys of the commercial landings in Monterey was tagged! This is the first hatchery fish recovered north of Pt. Conception! >>
> >
Here are the stats for this individual:>>
Spawn date: 04-25-2000>>
Release date: 08-31-2000>>
Release location: Dana Pt. Harbor (launch ramp)>>
Release size: 161 mm TL (6 in)>>
> >
Recovery date: 9-28-2010>>
Age at recovery: 10.4 years>>
Recovery size: 1097 mm TL (43 in)>>
Recovery wt: 10.3 kg (23 lbs)>>
>>
>Michael A. Shane, M.S.>>
Research Scientist/Diving Safety Officer>>
Hubbs-SeaWorld Research Institute>>
2595 Ingraham Street>>
San Diego, CA 92109>>
>>
>I hope we will see many kayakers enter the Bill Poole Memorial Tournement to benefit Hubbs White Seabass replenishment program 7/30 - 7/31. If you can't make the fishing tourney or just prefer to eat fish instead of compete in a contest come on down for the BBQ and silent auction on 7/31 from 11am - 2pm. We are collecting many interesting and widely varied auction items and you could even win a raffle for just a couple bucks. A family friendly event with a tour of 40- 60lb Yellowtail tank and other aquaculture projects included with your modest entry fee.

See you there, Kurtfish

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That's awesome...

10 years old and only 23lb... I had no idea. So the 60lb'ers we see caught here must be really old!

T Bone · 05-18-2011, 03:06 PM

My question too Kurt.Our Avatar fish must be 25-30 years old.

kurt · 05-18-2011, 04:01 PM

43 inches long and 23lbs, that's pretty skinny. Sounds like a traveler.

-scallywag- · 05-18-2011, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Bone

My question too Kurt.Our Avatar fish must be 25-30 years old.

My guess is they are "gill net baby's" or fish that actually got to mature due to the in-shore gill net ban, and the hard work by Hubbs and others. It seems like every season the WSB caught locally consistantly gain about 5lbs.

Last year 45-55lb fish where pretty average, with only a small percentage going over the 60lb mark. This season I have already seen multiple fish in the 65lb range, heard of quite a few more and even seen one in the last 2months that went over 70lbs.

No doubt someone on this board will get a #70+ this season, maybe even a #80!!! they are out there!

T Bone · 05-19-2011, 02:49 AM

when did they ban gillnets?

skiffman · 05-19-2011, 06:49 PM

Gill nets were banned about 1990. There is lots of info if you google it. This group was largely responsible for making it happen.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...e_Conservation. A very close friend of mine was involved and I am proud to say he was largely responsible for what you catch in La Jolla today. Prior to this event catches of large Yellowtail, Halibut and WSB as well as BSB were virtually non existent as the gill nets wrapped everything coming up the beach. As an old time L.J. local who has been launching skiffs off the beach for 40 years I can tell you the catching of the above species is significantly better now than 20+ years ago. The eco system in La Jolla is small. Tread lightly and savor its brilliance.
Kelvin

dsafety · 05-19-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiffman

Gill nets were banned about 1990. There is lots of info if you google it. This group was largely responsible for making it happen.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...e_Conservation. A very close friend of mine was involved and I am proud to say he was largely responsible for what you catch in La Jolla today. Prior to this event catches of large Yellowtail, Halibut and WSB as well as BSB were virtually non existent as the gill nets wrapped everything coming up the beach. As an old time L.J. local who has been launching skiffs off the beach for 40 years I can tell you the catching of the above species is significantly better now than 20+ years ago. The eco system in La Jolla is small. Tread lightly and savor its brilliance.
Kelvin

For those who have not been following the whole MLPA thing very closely, banning gill nets, long lines and DDT, along with reasonable fisheries management have been largely responsible for the revival of our currently healthy fishery over the last 30 years. The folks on the other side, never got the memo on this. The science they are constantly touting is outdated, inaccurate and irrelevant.

As Skiffman points out, LJ is a small ecosystem. It is an indisputable fact that the fishery in LJ is healthier today than at any time in the last 30 years. I grew up in La Jolla and can testify to this fact. I suspect, but cannot prove that the rest of California's fisheries have recovered to the same degree as we have witnessed here and for the same reasons.

The problem we face here is that in political warfare, the truth is seldom part of the dialogue. Only those close to the issue know the truth. The great unwashed masses only get the message that is screamed the loudest by the combatant with the most money to spend.

As the lawyers fight this battle in the courts, the rest of us need to do our part to help educate the uninformed. We should all take every opportunity available to share the truth with our friends, associates and anyone else who will listen.

Our opponents have the money and a very shrill voice. We, one the other hand have the truth on our side. It is time for everyone who has been sitting on the sidelines to step up and speak up.

Bob

dorado50 · 05-19-2011, 09:25 PM

Bob, I for one am waiting for you to take the lead as your vast knowledge seems overwelming. But than again why let the truth stand in the way of a good story?

walrus · 05-20-2011, 06:16 AM

"Our opponents have the money and a very shrill voice. We, one the other hand have the truth on our side. It is time for everyone who has been sitting on the sidelines to step up and speak up."

X200,
If you don't become active and take it seriously, later you'll be crying that's it wrong and unfair while remembering what it was like.

Talk to all your friends if they fish or not, get the truth out, to the masses don't wait for someone else to do it. The extremist are a minority but have the media in their pocket. We have numbers on our side, so tell everyone how the fishery has changed for the better since banning gill netting, and longlining. Support the lawsuit fianancially, hey you pay for fishing license every year, why not pay the same amount every now and again to keep fishing forever. I know money is tight, you need to put money where your mouth is.

kurtfish · 05-20-2011, 02:02 PM

https://keepamericafishing.salsalabs...ill-line-saber

This is a critical time as Bob Fletcher is fighting the MLPA in court on our behave once again. As Bob mentioned the shrill voices on the other side are well funded but uniformed and we need to do all we can to support the legal efforts that may end-up overturning the whole mis-information mess that was the MLPA process. Mr. Fletcher has prevailed with one legal victory already and we need to support his efforts.

We can whine on-line and to each other all we want about the poor data or lack there of but if we sit on our hands and don't open our wallets it is all water under the bridge and Bird Rock MPA will be closed forever.

The fishermen in on OC and LA counties are really up a creek with the proposed MPAs up that way and then LJ will really be crowded and then overfishing of a limted area and resource could really be an issue. Condensing commercial fisherman and recereational fishermen into smaller areas is the goal of the MLPA and we know that is not in our best interests no matter what spill-over BS they offer.

Please use the above link to make a contribution to this legal battle. The deep pocketed Packard Foundation loves it when we complain and whine while doing very little to support the real battle.

FISHIONADO · 05-20-2011, 05:09 PM

wish I could hit the "Like" button, good stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtfish

https://keepamericafishing.salsalabs...ill-line-saber

This is a critical time as Bob Fletcher is fighting the MLPA in court on our behave once again. As Bob mentioned the shrill voices on the other side are well funded but uniformed and we need to do all we can to support the legal efforts that may end-up overturning the whole mis-information mess that was the MLPA process. Mr. Fletcher has prevailed with one legal victory already and we need to support his efforts.

We can whine on-line and to each other all we want about the poor data or lack there of but if we sit on our hands and don't open our wallets it is all water under the bridge and Bird Rock MPA will be closed forever.

The fishermen in on OC and LA counties are really up a creek with the proposed MPAs up that way and then LJ will really be crowded and then overfishing of a limted area and resource could really be an issue. Condensing commercial fisherman and recereational fishermen into smaller areas is the goal of the MLPA and we know that is not in our best interests no matter what spill-over BS they offer.

Please use the above link to make a contribution to this legal battle. The deep pocketed Packard Foundation loves it when we complain and whine while doing very little to support the real battle.

05-18-2011, 12:42 PM	#1
kurtfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I work in the little Village of La Jolla Posts: 139	WSB Clipboarders Report Subject: Hubbs Hatchery WSB caught near Monterey Bayfficeffice" />>> > > A WSB head that we recently received from DFG sampling surveys of the commercial landings in Monterey was tagged! This is the first hatchery fish recovered north of Pt. Conception! >> > > Here are the stats for this individual:>> Spawn date: 04-25-2000>> Release date: 08-31-2000>> Release location: Dana Pt. Harbor (launch ramp)>> Release size: 161 mm TL (6 in)>> > > Recovery date: 9-28-2010>> Age at recovery: 10.4 years>> Recovery size: 1097 mm TL (43 in)>> Recovery wt: 10.3 kg (23 lbs)>> >> >Michael A. Shane, M.S.>> Research Scientist/Diving Safety Officer>> Hubbs-SeaWorld Research Institute>> 2595 Ingraham Street>> San Diego, CA 92109>> >> >I hope we will see many kayakers enter the Bill Poole Memorial Tournement to benefit Hubbs White Seabass replenishment program 7/30 - 7/31. If you can't make the fishing tourney or just prefer to eat fish instead of compete in a contest come on down for the BBQ and silent auction on 7/31 from 11am - 2pm. We are collecting many interesting and widely varied auction items and you could even win a raffle for just a couple bucks. A family friendly event with a tour of 40- 60lb Yellowtail tank and other aquaculture projects included with your modest entry fee. See you there, Kurtfish Hubbs Contest descriptions and BBQ form 2 pager (2).doc

05-18-2011, 01:21 PM	#2
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	That's awesome! Go go! __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

05-18-2011, 03:06 PM	#4
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	My question too Kurt.Our Avatar fish must be 25-30 years old. __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

05-18-2011, 04:01 PM	#5
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 502	43 inches long and 23lbs, that's pretty skinny. Sounds like a traveler. __________________ "All I got was a rock"

05-20-2011, 02:02 PM	#12
kurtfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I work in the little Village of La Jolla Posts: 139	Keep America Fishing Link for MLPA fight fund https://keepamericafishing.salsalabs...ill-line-saber This is a critical time as Bob Fletcher is fighting the MLPA in court on our behave once again. As Bob mentioned the shrill voices on the other side are well funded but uniformed and we need to do all we can to support the legal efforts that may end-up overturning the whole mis-information mess that was the MLPA process. Mr. Fletcher has prevailed with one legal victory already and we need to support his efforts. We can whine on-line and to each other all we want about the poor data or lack there of but if we sit on our hands and don't open our wallets it is all water under the bridge and Bird Rock MPA will be closed forever. The fishermen in on OC and LA counties are really up a creek with the proposed MPAs up that way and then LJ will really be crowded and then overfishing of a limted area and resource could really be an issue. Condensing commercial fisherman and recereational fishermen into smaller areas is the goal of the MLPA and we know that is not in our best interests no matter what spill-over BS they offer. Please use the above link to make a contribution to this legal battle. The deep pocketed Packard Foundation loves it when we complain and whine while doing very little to support the real battle. Last edited by kurtfish; 05-20-2011 at 02:32 PM.

05-19-2011, 02:49 AM	#7
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	when did they ban gillnets? __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

05-19-2011, 06:49 PM	#8
skiffman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 107	Gill nets Gill nets were banned about 1990. There is lots of info if you google it. This group was largely responsible for making it happen.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...e_Conservation. A very close friend of mine was involved and I am proud to say he was largely responsible for what you catch in La Jolla today. Prior to this event catches of large Yellowtail, Halibut and WSB as well as BSB were virtually non existent as the gill nets wrapped everything coming up the beach. As an old time L.J. local who has been launching skiffs off the beach for 40 years I can tell you the catching of the above species is significantly better now than 20+ years ago. The eco system in La Jolla is small. Tread lightly and savor its brilliance. Kelvin __________________ save some for tomorrow www.lajollafishing.com

05-19-2011, 09:25 PM	#10
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Bob, I for one am waiting for you to take the lead as your vast knowledge seems overwelming. But than again why let the truth stand in the way of a good story?

05-20-2011, 06:16 AM	#11
walrus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baja fish camp Posts: 478	"Our opponents have the money and a very shrill voice. We, one the other hand have the truth on our side. It is time for everyone who has been sitting on the sidelines to step up and speak up." X200, If you don't become active and take it seriously, later you'll be crying that's it wrong and unfair while remembering what it was like. Talk to all your friends if they fish or not, get the truth out, to the masses don't wait for someone else to do it. The extremist are a minority but have the media in their pocket. We have numbers on our side, so tell everyone how the fishery has changed for the better since banning gill netting, and longlining. Support the lawsuit fianancially, hey you pay for fishing license every year, why not pay the same amount every now and again to keep fishing forever. I know money is tight, you need to put money where your mouth is.