New paddle - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

yak-fishing-socal · 12-09-2014, 11:44 AM

So I was browsing the web looking for a shorter paddle now that I don't have such a wide kayak..I thought what can it hurt to look...long story short I got a new carbon paddle really cheap hope its what I need I'm going from a 240 to 230cm but for the price I don't think I could go wrong 83 bucks out the door for a carbon shaft and it has Posi-Lok...worst case situation I have a nice back up paddle..this is what I picked up

AquaBound Sting Ray Hybrid Kayak Paddle - Posi-Lok

rossman · 12-09-2014, 11:58 AM

Looks like a good deal to me. I have had the AquaBound Manta Ray for about a billion years now. Had a problem with their locking system on two occasions which they fixed for the price of shipping. Last trip to them they upgraded to their Posi-Lok system and it is the bomb.

jorluivil · 12-09-2014, 12:10 PM

I don't do much paddling but wouldn't a longer paddle be more beneficial? Longer paddle equals longer strokes vs. A shorter paddle with shorter strokes?

rossman · 12-09-2014, 12:55 PM

The theory as I understand it is that through the middle 1/3 of your stroke you the most power and optimal tracking you want only the blade and very little shaft in the water, being as close to the gunnell as possible with the shaft as close to perpendicular to the water as possible. Under those rules, you will need a shorter paddle on a thinner yak. With a longer paddle on my yak, I just feel I am flailing at the water and not tracking well. If I was ever to get out of kayak fishing and get a PA I would put oar locks on that sucker.

ful-rac · 12-09-2014, 12:59 PM

ooooooo.....welcome to the darkside rossman!!!

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yak-fishing-socal · 12-09-2014, 01:28 PM

^^Hahahah. "If I was ever to get out of kayak fishing and get a PA" lol..
But he is right longer isn't always better I went from a 34" to a 29" wide yak and can see the difference with my paddle..so hopefully this 230cm does the job and I can be more efficient

rossman · 12-09-2014, 02:24 PM

230 should be about right, if not a bit long. My yak is just short of 30" wide and I run a 220. Any fine tuning from this point would have to take shoulder width and arms length into account. Nice purchase

Aznronin · 12-09-2014, 03:37 PM

Depending on your height. If your kayak is less than 30" wide than yes your probably going to be using a 230 for most average sized people. The lighter weight of a carbon shaft is well worth the money. You will feel like your on a vacation. Lol

yak-fishing-socal · 12-09-2014, 08:24 PM

Sweet can't wait to get it in 3 days
This will be my lightest paddle ever

yak-fishing-socal · 02-09-2015, 06:14 AM

If anyone was wondering its a great fit love how much lighter it is and how it doesn't feel like I'm splashing the top of the water..the size is perfect.

FleshandBlood · 02-09-2015, 09:17 AM

You're going to love having a new paddle. I just recently upgraded my paddle and WOW what a difference it's made. Experiencing less fatigue and a more powerful stroke and glide is worth every penny!

Big Wave Dave · 02-09-2015, 09:30 AM

I tried a graphite paddle instead of the old aluminum shaft one that I use and couldn't get used to the lack of weight. It felt like paddling with a feather and intuitively felt like I couldn't get a good push from it. I went back to the heavier model. Yes, something must be wrong with me.

MrPatrick · 02-09-2015, 10:42 AM

Dave stick with the lighter one. It will take a while for your muscle memory to change. Huge difference in performance once you get used to it. I went from a super heavy cobra paddle to an Onno that only weighs 20oz. Took a while to feel right but I would never go back.

ccacher1 · 02-09-2015, 11:38 AM

I have a carbon Aqua Bound and love it.

buddha · 02-09-2015, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPatrick

Dave stick with the lighter one. It will take a while for your muscle memory to change. Huge difference in performance once you get used to it. I went from a super heavy cobra paddle to an Onno that only weighs 20oz. Took a while to feel right but I would never go back.

Did you buy your paddle from Patrick when he was in San Diego or Hawaii? How long did it take to get your paddle?

I had an Onno paddle and it was nice but had the wider fins. A narrower one would be perfect for me.

I now have a Werner Camano and it is very nice but not as light as the Onno.

MrPatrick · 02-09-2015, 04:23 PM

I bought it from a kayak shop that was changing owners. I was looking at the carbon paddles in the shop and noticed used paddles with the rental stuff. I asked the "New Owner" what he wanted for the used ONNO. He said since the new carbon shafted paddles inside were over $100, "How about $50?" I said, "$50?"
He returned with "Ok $40." I took out two twenties and have enjoyed it's incredible lightness ever since.
It is a 220cm length with a single piece shaft. It takes up more room because it won't break down, but that makes it lighter without any flex.

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skrilla · 02-09-2015, 04:26 PM

I use that same model Aquabound paddle and love it. Works great as a shovel too.

buddha · 02-09-2015, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPatrick

I bought it from a kayak shop that was changing owners. I was looking at the carbon paddles in the shop and noticed used paddles with the rental stuff. I asked the "New Owner" what he wanted for the used ONNO. He said since the new carbon shafted paddles inside were over $100, "How about $50?" I said, "$50?"
He returned with "Ok $40." I took out two twenties and have enjoyed it's incredible lightness ever since.
It is a 220cm length with a single piece shaft. It takes up more room because it won't break down, but that makes it lighter without any flex.

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Paddle deal of the century!

12-09-2014, 11:44 AM	#1
yak-fishing-socal kayak fishing socal Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southern California / Whittier Posts: 438	New paddle So I was browsing the web looking for a shorter paddle now that I don't have such a wide kayak..I thought what can it hurt to look...long story short I got a new carbon paddle really cheap hope its what I need I'm going from a 240 to 230cm but for the price I don't think I could go wrong 83 bucks out the door for a carbon shaft and it has Posi-Lok...worst case situation I have a nice back up paddle..this is what I picked up AquaBound Sting Ray Hybrid Kayak Paddle - Posi-Lok

12-09-2014, 11:58 AM	#2
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	Looks like a good deal to me. I have had the AquaBound Manta Ray for about a billion years now. Had a problem with their locking system on two occasions which they fixed for the price of shipping. Last trip to them they upgraded to their Posi-Lok system and it is the bomb. __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

12-09-2014, 12:10 PM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	I don't do much paddling but wouldn't a longer paddle be more beneficial? Longer paddle equals longer strokes vs. A shorter paddle with shorter strokes? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

12-09-2014, 12:55 PM	#4
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	The theory as I understand it is that through the middle 1/3 of your stroke you the most power and optimal tracking you want only the blade and very little shaft in the water, being as close to the gunnell as possible with the shaft as close to perpendicular to the water as possible. Under those rules, you will need a shorter paddle on a thinner yak. With a longer paddle on my yak, I just feel I am flailing at the water and not tracking well. If I was ever to get out of kayak fishing and get a PA I would put oar locks on that sucker. __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

12-09-2014, 12:59 PM	#5
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	ooooooo.....welcome to the darkside rossman!!! ! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

12-09-2014, 01:28 PM	#6
yak-fishing-socal kayak fishing socal Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southern California / Whittier Posts: 438	^^Hahahah. "If I was ever to get out of kayak fishing and get a PA" lol.. But he is right longer isn't always better I went from a 34" to a 29" wide yak and can see the difference with my paddle..so hopefully this 230cm does the job and I can be more efficient

12-09-2014, 02:24 PM	#7
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	230 should be about right, if not a bit long. My yak is just short of 30" wide and I run a 220. Any fine tuning from this point would have to take shoulder width and arms length into account. Nice purchase __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

12-09-2014, 03:37 PM	#8
Aznronin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Sfv Posts: 147	Depending on your height. If your kayak is less than 30" wide than yes your probably going to be using a 230 for most average sized people. The lighter weight of a carbon shaft is well worth the money. You will feel like your on a vacation. Lol

12-09-2014, 08:24 PM	#9
yak-fishing-socal kayak fishing socal Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southern California / Whittier Posts: 438	Sweet can't wait to get it in 3 days This will be my lightest paddle ever

02-09-2015, 06:14 AM	#10
yak-fishing-socal kayak fishing socal Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southern California / Whittier Posts: 438	If anyone was wondering its a great fit love how much lighter it is and how it doesn't feel like I'm splashing the top of the water..the size is perfect.

02-09-2015, 09:17 AM	#11
FleshandBlood Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Seal Beach Posts: 86	You're going to love having a new paddle. I just recently upgraded my paddle and WOW what a difference it's made. Experiencing less fatigue and a more powerful stroke and glide is worth every penny!

02-09-2015, 09:30 AM	#12
Big Wave Dave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 137	I tried a graphite paddle instead of the old aluminum shaft one that I use and couldn't get used to the lack of weight. It felt like paddling with a feather and intuitively felt like I couldn't get a good push from it. I went back to the heavier model. Yes, something must be wrong with me.

02-09-2015, 10:42 AM	#13
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	Dave stick with the lighter one. It will take a while for your muscle memory to change. Huge difference in performance once you get used to it. I went from a super heavy cobra paddle to an Onno that only weighs 20oz. Took a while to feel right but I would never go back.

02-09-2015, 11:38 AM	#14
ccacher1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 157	I have a carbon Aqua Bound and love it. __________________ fish forever, work whenever

02-09-2015, 04:23 PM	#16
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	New paddle I bought it from a kayak shop that was changing owners. I was looking at the carbon paddles in the shop and noticed used paddles with the rental stuff. I asked the "New Owner" what he wanted for the used ONNO. He said since the new carbon shafted paddles inside were over $100, "How about $50?" I said, "$50?" He returned with "Ok $40." I took out two twenties and have enjoyed it's incredible lightness ever since. It is a 220cm length with a single piece shaft. It takes up more room because it won't break down, but that makes it lighter without any flex. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

02-09-2015, 04:26 PM	#17
skrilla Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 664	I use that same model Aquabound paddle and love it. Works great as a shovel too. __________________ Urban Camo Trident 13