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Old 09-02-2013, 06:40 AM   #1
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Don't believe everything you read! Especially when it's not published in a peer reviewed scientific journal!

You guys are classic. Nice to see you are back in the game Hobie Pedaler.

Honestly, this is old news. I have been working directly to assist in the sampling and testing of muscle tissue from hundreds of bluefin tuna over the past few years. Some of the results are very cool, but like stated by many above not a heath concern.

Google: Fukushima, pacific bluefin tuna, migration, stable isotope, radiocesium



Or if you want to get really crazy try Google Scholar:


http://scholar.google.com/schhp?hl=en


Choose your sources wisely!


If you add Daniel Madigan to your google search you will find a few papers that discuss results from actual scientific analysis of muscle tissue from bluefin tuna sampled locally here in San Diego. I am currently working with Dan to continue sampling and analysis.

I can post links to a few recent PUBLISHED papers if there is interest. But like most scientific papers unless you do some background reading a lot of the paper will be hard to understand. That's why scientific results can be misconstrued so easily.

The internet is littered with blogs and news reports written by people who barely understand the subjects they're getting payed to write about.

Which is why it's important to think for yourself.

But the short version is below:

Fukushima Radiation in Migrating Bluefin Tuna Expected to Fall






Radioactive material found in bluefin tuna that swam or fed in waters off the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan is likely to decrease over time as the material dilutes in the ocean, scientists said.
A study of 15 Pacific bluefin caught off San Diego in August last year found levels of radioactive cesium 10 times higher than in fish caught in previous years and provide “unequivocal evidence” that the radiation came from Fukushima, researchers including Daniel Madigan and Nicholas Fisher said in a study published yesterday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Contamination levels, which the authors say are not a danger to public health, are likely to decline even though cesium has ‘biomagnification’ characteristics, meaning the concentration increases from prey fish to predators when cesium is consumed. That would be offset by the bluefin’s metabolism, which should excrete cesium at a rate of about 2 percent per day, Fisher wrote in an e-mail.
“Much will depend on the concentration in the prey fish, which in turn is ultimately dependent on the water concentration,” wrote Fisher, a professor at Stony Brook University in New York, in response to e-mail questions. “If concentrations in water will eventually decline, as we would expect, due to dilution and dispersion, then concentrations in living organisms will eventually decline as well.”
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:02 AM   #2
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http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/05/22/1204859109

open the Full Text PDF and enjoy
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:34 AM   #3
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OK to close the thread Now....

Everybody got to say what they believe...it will just be political fighting going forward...
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:47 AM   #4
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Don't believe everything you read! Especially when it's not published in a peer reviewed scientific journal! A study of 15 Pacific bluefin caught off San Diego in August last year found levels of radioactive cesium 10 times higher than in fish caught in previous years and provide “unequivocal evidence” that the radiation came from Fukushima, researchers including Daniel Madigan and Nicholas Fisher said in a study published yesterday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Contamination levels, which the authors say are not a danger to public health, are likely to decline even though cesium has ‘biomagnification’ characteristics, meaning the concentration increases from prey fish to predators when cesium is consumed. That would be offset by the bluefin’s metabolism, which should excrete cesium at a rate of about 2 percent per day
So that's why those pup sealions are dying. They are eating too many Bluefin tuna

Yeah I figured that Bluefin and even possibly Albacore could end up with some trace contaminants but it's important to note that is because during their migration they fed on bait over there and then migrated here. It's not because the radiation has drifted across the ocean and is now contaminating our waters. I don't know about you but personally I do not catch too many kayak bluefin or albacore. I wish I did

The fish kayakers catch locally are clean and as you state even the most tainted Bluefin your likely to catch offshore is still going to be safe to eat.

So speaking of biomagnification how were the mercury levels in those same Bluefin?

Thanks for the post, and clarification!!!!

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