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10-03-2010, 07:22 AM
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If you measured them 100 times already why are you measuring them on the beach near the water? It just looks really suspicious. Not hating, just sharing a different opinion.
"I'm a conservationist, I'm an animal rights activist, I'm a vegan". WTF? What were you trying to say? |
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10-03-2010, 07:29 AM
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Daddeo
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Is that 'Power to the people' by B. Marley I hear in the background?
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10-03-2010, 09:30 AM
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I was measuring them for their tuxedo alterations..The inseams were just too tight.. We were supposed to go out for a nice seafood dinner, but I didn't take into account their recent molting... So what your essentially saying is that i should stand down at all times,especially when I am obeying all laws, & put my tail between my legs when i am treated like an jerk by some schmuck with a shiny little badge, eh?.. thats not gonna happen...not in a hundred years... WTF is right!?! If you cant understand why I was measuring them... Well then, you sure aren't going to even begin to comprehend why I am a Conservationist... (Yes it does look extremely suspicious i admit. completely.you are right 100% there.) But,...You dont treat innocent law abiding Kayak fisherman with rude and harassing behavior from the start..I was way up on the beach not near the water, so I wouldn't have been able to throw them into the water btw..As you heard, he has met me before, and I told him that EXACT same damn line upon his consistent rude choice of wording his questions previously, and tried to put him at ease by introducing myself and explaining my views, similarly like an honorary member of the dfg..& as always especially on opening night you can be 100% guaranteed He will be measuring my bag no matter what I was doing.. You can come down on me all you want about how I might make the kayak fishing community look bad from this, but it is His attitude and behavior that needs a check..or a firing! Note to Johnny Law: in case your reading this: Become a full fledged Cop. That is your true calling..They need to start hiring some new agents with at least a High School diploma and some decent people skills..What happened to the days where they were once as knowledgeable in the field as a Marine Biologist ect.. I used to fully enjoy talking up a storm to those types of agents for hours on end!..This asshole on the other hand, comes across that EVERYONE is doing something illegal and he will treat you as such, until one proves without a shadow of a doubt that in fact you are completely innocent..He is the only one making the FEW decent DFG agents look bad..Had I been in the bushes, digging a hole, stuffing my shorts with shorts, stashing them in my hull,selling them on the beach,tailing them, or serious suspicious behavior like so,...THEN he can come up and taze me, shoot me, harass me or whatever he feels necessary in that case scenario..until then, use some discretion Professor Theology.. What he should have done was approached me and said something like the following: DFG-"Hello Guys, Hows this Season Opener treating you? (Politely) Did you get any decent sized bugs tonight? I have to inspect your catches, please.." (something to that degree) Response: "Why Yes Sir! We had a GREAT night! Feel free to do as you would like...." & a nice DFG closing like: "Way to go guys, thanks again.. enjoy your bugs!!!" (would have been nice departing comment ..) Instead.... he was honestly pissed off that we were following all laws and regulations & he didn't get to write a precious ticket..that is the problem here..... 1mea·sure 1 a (1) : an adequate or due portion (2) : a moderate degree; also : moderation, temperance (3) : a fixed or suitable limit : bounds b : the dimensions, capacity, or amount of something ascertained by measuring c : an estimate of what is to be expected (as of a person or situation) d (1) : a measured quantity (2) : amount, degree I think I will now go into the trash and dig out the rotting carapaces and measure them just one more time for "good measure"...
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10-03-2010, 10:33 AM
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Still not hating, but it sounded like you threw one back because it was questionable size. Was that at the hoop net or at the beach?.And which animal are you an activist for. Peace, seriously, but you shared on an open forum and it's an interesting topic.
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10-03-2010, 11:11 AM
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im just worked up from them, not u..just stating my position for clarity. I threw many lobsters back that were 3 1/4" spot on that night!!!. Not 3 & 3/16.. 3 & 1/4". I only keep ones that are over 3 1/4" , & I filed my gauge down with a metal file on both side of my caliper!... again I did nothing wrong, i NEVER threw anything away on the beach. @ exactly 2:16 seconds you will see me & hear me say: "He just made it, He is JUST 3 1/4" (100% legally able to be kept by California Regulations) @ 2:23 seconds, I drop it in the Pacific and released him...  ( & that was just 1 out of over probably 10+ that night fyi) & @ 4:17 seconds you will hear me tell him again that: "& Every time I am going to make it clear that you guys are a bunch of Natzis"!....... (My personal beliefs, religion, diet and lifestyle, are well...kinda personal. I don't preach them to Anyone or really even discuss for obvious reasons.. Unless confronted in such a manner as to defend my actions.. In person/on the water I wouldn't mind boring you to death if you should really be inquisitive as to my campaigning...
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10-03-2010, 11:19 AM
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Cool, I'm interested, I'll bring the beer.
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10-03-2010, 11:35 AM
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My $ .02
Again I stumble across yet another post I gotta reply to, even if it is from the other side of the world. To those of you who are defending the warden on this....
 . Some of you know what I do, a very few perhaps. I did not swear an oath to defend this country so that the kid who was bullied in school could go on a power trip. I have been briefed by both local law enforcement and federal agents. This mentality and approach is often utilized by all agencies. Similar to pulling in tight behind someone and swerving in their lane, causing your eyes to follow, your hands to follow your eyes, and giving them an excuse to pull you over. I really dont want to hear about how this guy is preserving LJ with his BS tactics, or about duty or sacrifice, or even that the ends justify the means. I dont know how many mortar rounds/rockets/IEDs/or small arms fire he has dodged protecting our jewel from poachers, but I am pretty sure I got him beat. Again, no excuse. Good on ya Wade. F'em. |
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10-03-2010, 11:53 AM
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I'm a veteran, my dad is a veteran, my two brothers are veterans, and none of us would ever talk that way to any game warden or DFG officer. Still appreciate your service in Bumfukistan, seriously.
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10-03-2010, 12:26 PM
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Yeah Fish, I know, I see it all the time in the Army, Navy, and Marines. The blind allegiance to anything resembling an authority figure is prevalent and symptomatic of the big military. Thankfully, the Special Operations community teaches us to think for ourselves. Thanks for your support and your family's service. Seriously.
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10-03-2010, 01:18 PM
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I'll preface this with this...I like ya Wade. You may not be able to put a face to my screen name, but we've crossed paths a bunch out there. Your videos are fun. I've given you bait on the water. We've pulled on fish at the same time. Its always more lively on the water with you out there. You're a good guy. So nothing personal...
 Officers (DFG, police, military, etc.) are trained, both by formal and real-life training, to identify problems. I'm not going to walk around outside of a bank with a skimask and a trenchcoat on, writing notes on small pieces of paper to myself and then get pissed if a cop comes up to me and says "Don't even think about going in that bank." You don't even need to be a cop to get an analogy like that. How about you see me walking around your car with a pry bar and a flash light looking in the windows. I'm pretty sure you'd send a "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" my way. And it would be well deserved. By the looks and the sounds of things (a reason you gave for measuring them on the beach was, "I measured them again because I knew you were going to hit me up."), you were measuring them because you saw DFG and wanted to make 1000% sure that you were 10000% legal (which is COMPLETELY understandable). We all know you and we've all seen you throw back some pretty rad fish. Huge props for how much you respect that fishery. But to that warden who probably isn't a BWE member and only knows you from a few similar interactions on the beach, you're just another guy on the beach trying to measure his catch when it's already too late. Who knows what he had to deal with just prior to approaching you. I think he said it perfect with his Shakespearean quote; "Me thinks thou protests too much." BTW, Can someone point out exactly what the warden said that was so incredibly inflammatory? Its always a bit odd to me when people say that the officer didn't talk to them nice enough. Its even more peculiar when they make that statement after they've cursed, laid out their life's work, and called the officer a nazi. Try that with a real douchebag nazi cop and you'll be paying for the dent on the hood of the car made via your face when you "tripped and fell and landed on it", all according to the police report of course. I'm just saying, there are d'bags and their are D'BAGS. This guy saw something suspicious that he's probably seen a thousand times from guys that do not have the same integrity as Wade, and jumped on it. That resulted in two guys, both with valid points, having a heated discussion on the beach. That's it, plain and simple. Doesn't mean that the DFG is ran by nazis. Wade, killer evening on the water! Enjoy the bugs. And THANKS for ONLY keeping the true keepers. You seemed stoked out there and caught a killer bbq's worth and this shouldn't distract from that. Its really no big deal. I'm sure the warden dealt with worse that night. My personal report...Dove last night in Laguna, everything we handled was borderline except for one that my buddy kept. Vis was about 5-10 feet and the surge was pretty bad where we dove ("Jack in the box" for those familiar with the area).
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10-03-2010, 01:17 PM
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check your pm. don't delete it, overzealous agents should be shown off since they mar the reputation of the agency as a whole. They should remember who pays their salary.
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10-03-2010, 01:26 PM
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You make a lot of assumptions about me and the dfg guy, you have no idea, but I say fuck the little stuff. Hope you get to do the job we are capable of doing or come home soon, either way wish you a long and fortunate life!
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10-03-2010, 05:54 PM
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Geez...Wade, I guess it was good that I couldn't find you Friday night. Hey, I could have helped out that night..You know one Warden to another..My animals are a hell of lot meaner than his..
I only had 4 keepers, not bad for my first time out and by myself. what time did get in? 12:30 for me.....
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10-04-2010, 12:32 AM
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take up hunting
Funny thing about wardens.....when you are out in the field with a loaded gun in your hand while hunting I have never gotten any attitude at all.....why is that?
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10-04-2010, 06:30 AM
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Wade if your gonna f-ck a lobster use alot of butter
 nice vid.
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10-04-2010, 09:33 AM
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I 2nd that they are much more polite when they know you are armed.
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