GOOP vs 3M 5200 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

prowlerdude · 02-28-2010, 07:31 AM

Ive used both and have been happy. The only drawback I had with the white 5200 I used was the mess. It was my first instalation and add the spaz factor... My beads were not up to par and it showed.

Siebler · 02-28-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by prowlerdude

Ive used both and have been happy. The only drawback I had with the white 5200 I used was the mess. It was my first instalation and add the spaz factor... My beads were not up to par and it showed.

Yeah 5200 is a pain. If you go this route wear gloves. trust me.

Both products work well but if you plan on using the sonar within a week or so I would go Goop as it cures faster. 5200 takes a long time to fully cure all the way through (even the fast cure stuff takes a while).

dtownfan · 02-28-2010, 02:50 PM

thanks for the info! i have a tube of marine GOOP here at the house and wanna give it a shot. i will post pics when i finisher her up. i spent the day making a home for the new yaks so i have not even started the contour carving for the wet mount. this weekend me make the trip to farmville va to get my 135 ride......went for one and picked up 2! i bought my wife a Tarpon 100 and a carbon manta ray paddle. when the wife is happy, i am happy'er!

Billy V · 02-28-2010, 06:16 PM

If you use the 3m 5200 do Not use alcohol to prep the area. It will prevent the 5200 from curing.

Iceman · 02-28-2010, 06:49 PM

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I would prep the surface really well by scuffing it with a heavy grit sand paper

Crucial! I don't bother with the acetone.

dgax65 · 02-28-2010, 08:24 PM

The 5200 worked very well on my transducer wet mount. I managed to get a relatively neat bead completely around the bottom of my mount without getting the sticky white crap all over things like I did in the past. I let it cure for about a week (it rained all week, so there was nothing to lose by waiting). As far as I could tell, the 5200 made a perfect seal with the hull. I had roughed up the hull with sandpaper and it adhered well. For this type of application I think that 5200 is superior.

BTW: While the 5200 worked great, I didn't get enough Goop on the side seams to get a really good seal. The second time out, I dropped the kayak getting it off the truck and I popped one of the seams. It wasn't a big leak, but my transducer was nearly uncovered by the time I got ready to launch. I had adequate sonar performance most of the time I was on the water, but my readings were a little spotty when I was rocking in the swells. I said when I started making the wet well that I would only give it one chance and would tear it out if it wasn't perfect. Well, it got two chances and I had to get rid of it. I could have tried Gooping all the seams again, but that would have been a pain in the ass with no guarantee of success. I was eager to get back out to fish the next day so I pulled the whole thing and went with a Goop-to-the-hull mount. Either I did a better Goop job that I've ever done before or I just selected a better location. The Goop mount is giving me very good readings. I was metering the canyon down to 583ft in 200khz. I'm not going to bother with a through hull until I have to replace my head unit (Lowrance LMS 527C DG iGPS). That unit is no longer in production and the best price I can get for a compatible thru-hull is $394.
http://www.lei-extras.com/store/sear...ProdNum=106-79
If I move up to a Lowrance HDS FF I'll spend the money for a thru-hull.

dtownfan · 03-01-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dgax65

The 5200 worked very well on my transducer wet mount. I managed to get a relatively neat bead completely around the bottom of my mount without getting the sticky white crap all over things like I did in the past. I let it cure for about a week (it rained all week, so there was nothing to lose by waiting). As far as I could tell, the 5200 made a perfect seal with the hull. I had roughed up the hull with sandpaper and it adhered well. For this type of application I think that 5200 is superior.

BTW: While the 5200 worked great, I didn't get enough Goop on the side seams to get a really good seal. The second time out, I dropped the kayak getting it off the truck and I popped one of the seams. It wasn't a big leak, but my transducer was nearly uncovered by the time I got ready to launch. I had adequate sonar performance most of the time I was on the water, but my readings were a little spotty when I was rocking in the swells. I said when I started making the wet well that I would only give it one chance and would tear it out if it wasn't perfect. Well, it got two chances and I had to get rid of it. I could have tried Gooping all the seams again, but that would have been a pain in the ass with no guarantee of success. I was eager to get back out to fish the next day so I pulled the whole thing and went with a Goop-to-the-hull mount. Either I did a better Goop job that I've ever done before or I just selected a better location. The Goop mount is giving me very good readings. I was metering the canyon down to 583ft in 200khz. I'm not going to bother with a through hull until I have to replace my head unit (Lowrance LMS 527C DG iGPS). That unit is no longer in production and the best price I can get for a compatible thru-hull is $394.
http://www.lei-extras.com/store/sear...ProdNum=106-79
If I move up to a Lowrance HDS FF I'll spend the money for a thru-hull.

where i am mounting this beast will give me very limited space to work with. i was thinking about marking the location with a sharpie, after the space is "ruffed-up," and then applying a bead on the bottom of the mount and one on the traced ring on the hull. then squashin her, carefully that is, into place. take the finger around the inside and outside edges to smooth up and be done.

i wanna use GOOP cause i have it ready to go...............but after putting this thing together, all the research, careful planning, money invested, and such i would wait an extra week for first trip if need be. decisions......

i added a couple of pics from the kitchen.....i went with a mount area right behind me. i know everyone says that in front is what you are coming up to but i have a hatch behind the seat and have fished with a rear boat transducer since i was knee high to a grass hopper.

02-28-2010, 08:24 PM	#6
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	The 5200 worked very well on my transducer wet mount. I managed to get a relatively neat bead completely around the bottom of my mount without getting the sticky white crap all over things like I did in the past. I let it cure for about a week (it rained all week, so there was nothing to lose by waiting). As far as I could tell, the 5200 made a perfect seal with the hull. I had roughed up the hull with sandpaper and it adhered well. For this type of application I think that 5200 is superior. BTW: While the 5200 worked great, I didn't get enough Goop on the side seams to get a really good seal. The second time out, I dropped the kayak getting it off the truck and I popped one of the seams. It wasn't a big leak, but my transducer was nearly uncovered by the time I got ready to launch. I had adequate sonar performance most of the time I was on the water, but my readings were a little spotty when I was rocking in the swells. I said when I started making the wet well that I would only give it one chance and would tear it out if it wasn't perfect. Well, it got two chances and I had to get rid of it. I could have tried Gooping all the seams again, but that would have been a pain in the ass with no guarantee of success. I was eager to get back out to fish the next day so I pulled the whole thing and went with a Goop-to-the-hull mount. Either I did a better Goop job that I've ever done before or I just selected a better location. The Goop mount is giving me very good readings. I was metering the canyon down to 583ft in 200khz. I'm not going to bother with a through hull until I have to replace my head unit (Lowrance LMS 527C DG iGPS). That unit is no longer in production and the best price I can get for a compatible thru-hull is $394. http://www.lei-extras.com/store/sear...ProdNum=106-79 If I move up to a Lowrance HDS FF I'll spend the money for a thru-hull. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

02-28-2010, 07:31 AM	#1
prowlerdude Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clairemont Posts: 116	Ive used both and have been happy. The only drawback I had with the white 5200 I used was the mess. It was my first instalation and add the spaz factor... My beads were not up to par and it showed.

02-28-2010, 02:50 PM	#3
dtownfan Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 50	thanks for the info! i have a tube of marine GOOP here at the house and wanna give it a shot. i will post pics when i finisher her up. i spent the day making a home for the new yaks so i have not even started the contour carving for the wet mount. this weekend me make the trip to farmville va to get my 135 ride......went for one and picked up 2! i bought my wife a Tarpon 100 and a carbon manta ray paddle. when the wife is happy, i am happy'er!

02-28-2010, 06:16 PM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	If you use the 3m 5200 do Not use alcohol to prep the area. It will prevent the 5200 from curing.