The DEATH of a SPECIES - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Orca Winfrey · 10-08-2017, 02:19 PM

These stories make me sick to my stomach. I hope attitudes towards species conservation grow stronger. I know we have made some progress but we have so far to go to fight greed and selfishness.

makobob · 10-08-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey

These stories make me sick to my stomach. I hope attitudes towards species conservation grow stronger. I know we have made some progress but we have so far to go to fight greed and selfishness.

SO, how do WE turn it around? What can each of us do?

Orca Winfrey · 10-08-2017, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

SO, how do WE turn it around? What can each of us do?

I can only think of setting examples, word of mouth, electing the right people and maybe supporting organizations like The Nature Conservancy and WWF. Yeah, kinda weak.

makobob · 10-08-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey

I can only think of setting examples, word of mouth, electing the right people and maybe supporting organizations like The Nature Conservancy and WWF. Yeah, kinda weak.

There has to be a better way. AND SOON, we are killing this planet.

Baja_Traveler · 10-08-2017, 07:11 PM

The plight of the Vaquita is no different than that of the White Rhino. So long as you have an indigenous group of people who are willing to make a buck by poaching with zero regard for law or the wildlife they are killing, these animals will have no hope. Just last year a group of Mexican fisheries scientists were ganged up on and beaten by these same poachers. Why the Mexican government did not go in and throw them all in jail is beyond me. At least in Kenya, they are taking it seriously and using lethal force against the poachers. Usually I have no use for extremist organizations like Sea Shepard, but in this case I'm glad they are patrolling the north sea of Cortez and destroying illegally placed gill nets as they find them.

https://swfsc.noaa.gov/textblock.asp...d=676&id=21081

DanaPT · 10-08-2017, 07:24 PM

Google invetro meat.

Soon enough, if not too late, real food will be a luxury.

PapaDave · 10-09-2017, 06:12 AM

It's only going to get worse, there are too many people and still growing. Water, food, area, all are going to be consumed.

How else do you feed 7.44 billion people? This site shows just a few stats about what we people use...

http://www.theworldcounts.com/counte...ion_statistics

Try to imagine 250 million pound of meat, then try to imagine where it comes from and how much it takes to produce it. The numbers are staggering. I don't even know how we can produce what/where we do, let alone what will be needed in the future.

So we all sit in front of our TV's watching football games, mini-series, and the rest while eating snacks or chowing down on some burgers or steaks. We are raping the planet and ignoring the fact that we do.

I could go on but why bother....

10-09-2017, 06:12 AM	#7
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,461	It's only going to get worse, there are too many people and still growing. Water, food, area, all are going to be consumed. How else do you feed 7.44 billion people? This site shows just a few stats about what we people use... http://www.theworldcounts.com/counte...ion_statistics Try to imagine 250 million pound of meat, then try to imagine where it comes from and how much it takes to produce it. The numbers are staggering. I don't even know how we can produce what/where we do, let alone what will be needed in the future. So we all sit in front of our TV's watching football games, mini-series, and the rest while eating snacks or chowing down on some burgers or steaks. We are raping the planet and ignoring the fact that we do. I could go on but why bother.... __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

10-08-2017, 02:19 PM	#1
Orca Winfrey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: The I. E. Posts: 353	These stories make me sick to my stomach. I hope attitudes towards species conservation grow stronger. I know we have made some progress but we have so far to go to fight greed and selfishness.

10-08-2017, 07:11 PM	#5
Baja_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Table 17, Bay Park Fish Co. Posts: 943	The plight of the Vaquita is no different than that of the White Rhino. So long as you have an indigenous group of people who are willing to make a buck by poaching with zero regard for law or the wildlife they are killing, these animals will have no hope. Just last year a group of Mexican fisheries scientists were ganged up on and beaten by these same poachers. Why the Mexican government did not go in and throw them all in jail is beyond me. At least in Kenya, they are taking it seriously and using lethal force against the poachers. Usually I have no use for extremist organizations like Sea Shepard, but in this case I'm glad they are patrolling the north sea of Cortez and destroying illegally placed gill nets as they find them. https://swfsc.noaa.gov/textblock.asp...d=676&id=21081

10-08-2017, 07:24 PM	#6
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,605	Google invetro meat. Soon enough, if not too late, real food will be a luxury.