Another silly question - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ship 4 brains · 06-01-2010, 07:18 PM

What is the difference between a surface iron and a yo-yo iron? They look similar. Is it common to have a yo-yo setup and a surface iron on a jig stick on the yak with you at the same time?

fishinkid2010 · 06-01-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ship 4 brains

Is it common to have a yo-yo setup and a surface iron on a jig stick on the yak with you at the same time?

Absolutely! haha
A yo yo iron, such as a Salas 6x, usually weighs twice as much as a surface iron. They tend to be shorter, fatter, and heavier. Surface irons tend to be longer, and much more light weight, i.e Tady 45. Due to this, a "jig stick" will usually be 8'-10' long. A yo yo set up us usually a 6'- 8' heavy action rod, fished with 40#line.
Both applications tend to be fished with mono due to the fact that it will stretch and absorb the shock of the strike.

Hopefully these pics will give you a better idea....

MarkT · 06-01-2010, 08:42 PM

A surface iron like a Tady 45 weighs about 3 oz and swims just below the surface on a medium retreive. A Salas 6xJr weighs about 4.5 oz and is a heavy, yoyo iron. Drop it to the bottom (or below where you think the fish are holding) and crank like crazy. A reel with a 6:1 gear ratio is good for yoyoing. When your iron is back to the surface (or above where you think the fish are holding) let it back down and repeat. That's why it's called yoyoing. If your jig stops moving it's in a fishes mouth... crank even harder and set the hook!
Having both is a good thing.

Anthony179 · 06-02-2010, 06:38 AM

What rod is recomended for yoyo?

-scallywag- · 06-02-2010, 07:18 AM

I ALWAYS have a yoyo setup and a jigstck on board...both with #40mono.

As for yoyo rods, just about any 30-60 rated rod around 7ft or less will work...I played with alot of yoyo setups this winter, my favorite is the calstar GG 756xl, 6.5ft, 20-60lb rated, with a saltist 30h (or 40h) it's super lightweight, and fits in my palm well for those long days of grinding.

Also read the articals on this site about fishing the iron, and pay attention to the part on retrive speed. Too fast just spins the iron and twists your line. when worked at the right speed the iron should swim like this

j mo · 06-02-2010, 07:23 AM

Thats quite a tackle shop Tyler! Ill take the mac pattern Taddy45.....

ken aguilar · 06-02-2010, 07:36 AM

Wow after reading this, I realize I need more gear!! The addiction continues for fishing stuff!!!!!

miguelitro · 06-02-2010, 11:22 AM

I like to have both and often use a heavy iron if I am casting into the wind.

06-01-2010, 07:18 PM	#1
ship 4 brains Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 163	Another silly question What is the difference between a surface iron and a yo-yo iron? They look similar. Is it common to have a yo-yo setup and a surface iron on a jig stick on the yak with you at the same time?

06-01-2010, 08:42 PM	#3
MarkT Deep Release Specialist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 94	A surface iron like a Tady 45 weighs about 3 oz and swims just below the surface on a medium retreive. A Salas 6xJr weighs about 4.5 oz and is a heavy, yoyo iron. Drop it to the bottom (or below where you think the fish are holding) and crank like crazy. A reel with a 6:1 gear ratio is good for yoyoing. When your iron is back to the surface (or above where you think the fish are holding) let it back down and repeat. That's why it's called yoyoing. If your jig stops moving it's in a fishes mouth... crank even harder and set the hook! Having both is a good thing.

06-02-2010, 06:38 AM	#4
Anthony179 A.T. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario, CA Posts: 146	Rod for yoyo What rod is recomended for yoyo?

06-02-2010, 07:18 AM	#5
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	I ALWAYS have a yoyo setup and a jigstck on board...both with #40mono. As for yoyo rods, just about any 30-60 rated rod around 7ft or less will work...I played with alot of yoyo setups this winter, my favorite is the calstar GG 756xl, 6.5ft, 20-60lb rated, with a saltist 30h (or 40h) it's super lightweight, and fits in my palm well for those long days of grinding. Also read the articals on this site about fishing the iron, and pay attention to the part on retrive speed. Too fast just spins the iron and twists your line. when worked at the right speed the iron should swim like this

06-02-2010, 07:23 AM	#6
j mo Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Encinitas Posts: 600	Thats quite a tackle shop Tyler! Ill take the mac pattern Taddy45.....

06-02-2010, 07:36 AM	#7
ken aguilar Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 45	Wow after reading this, I realize I need more gear!! The addiction continues for fishing stuff!!!!!

06-02-2010, 11:22 AM	#8
miguelitro Team Bad Habits Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific Beach Posts: 119	I like to have both and often use a heavy iron if I am casting into the wind.