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Holy Mackerel 07-20-2009 09:35 AM

Next MLPA MEETING August 3rd Public Comment!!
 
MEETING SCHEDULE
August 3, 9:30 a.m., Holiday Inn

August 4, 8:00 a.m., Hilton Garden Inn


MEETING LOCATION
Holiday Inn
850 Palomar Airport Road
Carlsbad, CA 92008
760-438-7880
www.carlsbadhi.com


Hilton Garden Inn
6450 Carlsbad Blvd.
Carlsbad, CA 92011
760-476-0800
Hilton Garden Inn, Carlsbad Beach

The agenda will be posted about 10 days before the meeting, it will tell when public comment will be taken on August 3rd. There will be no public comment on the second day. The most effective comments to this group are those about important areas/geographies to you (and why). In addition comments about overall number and size of MPA areas are good for this group.

Day 2 are workshops, you are welcome to attend and move from room to room as long as you do it politely and are not disruptive. You have to remain quiet in the rooms, no comments, hand signals, or heavy sighs are allowed. This does allow you to see the inner workings of how the maps are drawn and some of the discussions that occur. Be prepared to see/hear things you may not be comfortable with and still remain quiet and polite....

tylerdurden 07-20-2009 10:31 AM

Here we go again. August 3rd it is. I hope they have the schedule up soon.

-scallywag- 07-20-2009 11:09 AM

UUUUHHHHHHH......:mad:

Billy V 07-20-2009 11:20 AM

Lets Ramp-Up This effort fellows.
-The clock is ticking on our La Jolla Fishing Grounds.

Please stay tuned to this MLPA thread, and Help Out where you can.

Tman 07-20-2009 11:41 AM

The sky will darken on Wednesday, the moon will hide the sun, so that they will know how unhappy the Fish Gods are with their proposals...

zenspearo 07-20-2009 03:48 PM

Before this meeting, we have a super-important BRTF meeting coming up with TWO (count 'em, two) public comment times. July 28 and 29 in Santa Monica.


Blue Ribbon Task Force meeting (the super-important guidance forming one)
July 28-29, 2009
July 28: 9:00 a.m. – 5:30 p.m.
July 29: 8:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT TIME: At approximately 4:30 p.m. on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 and at 8:00 a.m. on Wednesday, July 29, 2009.
Sheraton Delfina Santa Monica
530 Pico Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90405

This is the meeting where the SAT will go over their evaluations of round 2, the BRTF will hear about public input during the workshops, and the BRTF, most importantly, will formulate guidelines for the RSG to work off in creating Round 3 maps.

The last BRTF meeting for us. Couldn't be anymore important.

I have posted details here.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=5659

Let's ROLL CALL!

Billy V 07-20-2009 09:40 PM

Do we dare book a room and stay overnight ?
- 2 Chances to combat your enemy.

Grego 07-21-2009 07:56 AM

Billy, I have a queen size bed!! :o :p :party:

Holy Mackerel 07-21-2009 09:37 AM

Ok guys, good old fashion ROLL CALL!!!


1. Chris July 28, 29 Aug 3rd
2. ?

dgax65 07-21-2009 10:03 AM

I can be at the two BRTF meetings in Santa Monica. I should be able to make at least one of the sessions in Carlsbad.

Holy Mackerel 07-21-2009 10:25 AM

Thanks Doug for your committment!

ROLL CALL!!!


1. Chris July 28, 29 Aug 3rd
2. Doug July 28, 29 Maybe Aug 3rd
3. NEXT ?

Holy Mackerel 07-21-2009 02:07 PM

guys/girls,


Please at least commit to one meeting. You do not have to attend all four... C'mon!!! You can make ONE meeting, if you can go to more all the better, but we need to get the ball rolling. This is OVER in October, and the anti-fishing crowd will be at these meetings trying to shut out your access!

ROLL CALL!!!


1. Chris
2. Doug
3. NEXT ?

tylerdurden 07-21-2009 03:54 PM

In for July 28th

August 3rd

Let's go guys. email or pm me for speaking points if you want them. I'll get back to you a couple days before the meeting.

Jason 07-21-2009 04:16 PM

Count me in for August 3rd or 4th.

so cal shaggy 07-21-2009 04:43 PM

I will be at one of the Carlsbad meetings and my girlfriend Erika will be at one of the Santa Monica meetings in my place.

Holy Mackerel 07-22-2009 10:05 AM

Just make one date please!! (but if can make more all the better!)

July 28, 29 Aug 3rd (public comment)

Aug 4th (no public comment just observation of process)

BUMP!!

ROLL CALL!!!

1. Chris
2. Doug
3. Tyler
4. Jason
5. Jeff
6. Erika
7. YOU

Holy Mackerel 07-23-2009 11:54 AM

BUMP? Anyone out there? I know the fishing is good, but c'mon. I'd rather be fishing too! Next year, we will all be confined to one SMALL spot.. see Lapis 1. Not to mention, Joe's post on the resurrection of External C!!!!!!!


Will you attend?

tylerdurden 07-23-2009 03:55 PM

Let's go guys. Nothing is off the table this round. Any ideas from past rounds, even those from discarded maps can and will be incorporated into new maps.

kurt 07-24-2009 06:09 AM

Looks like I can make it on the 28th. I love these get togethers, this will be my 7th. Hope to see some new faces there.

Matt 07-24-2009 06:20 AM

I will be at one of the public comments....not sure which one, but I will be there! And absolutely no one enjoys these things guys...but ya gotta go! Let's not have this be like the early Dana meetings where only 2 guys showed up...these are extremely important to attend...oh yeah and I am working extra hours to make up going to these things 50+ hour work weeks suck but this is the final leg of the effort to protect La Jolla let's go guys and gals these are super important to attend!!!


BUMP

C. Cary 07-24-2009 06:54 AM

I can make it on August 3. Not sure what time I can get there (I fly back into town that morning).

C. Cary 07-24-2009 06:56 AM

I am in for August 3rd.

Not sure what time I will get there (I fly back into town that morning).

We need a strong presence.

rastrev 07-24-2009 07:00 AM

I'm going to at least make the meeting on 8/3. If I can swing the 28th too, I'll be there as well.

The enviros are trying to rally their troops. We need to do the same.

From what I understand, the proposed LJ MPA in Lapis 1 does not meet the minimum size requirements of 9 square miles, meaning that if the finalized proposal has a LJ MPA in it, the red area will be bigger. If we don't show up and fight for LJ, expect it to be gone forever.

:viking:

rastrev 07-25-2009 07:46 AM

BUMP!!!

If you are perfectly content having fishing the bays for spotties as your only option for kayak fishing in San Diego County, feel free to sit around and do nothing....

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

habanero 07-25-2009 09:50 AM

I'm in for at least one of these meetings and possibly all four.:driver:

THE DARKHORSE 07-25-2009 10:05 AM

Turn left here, Don.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by habanero (Post 42160)
I'm in for at least one of these meetings and possibly all four.:driver:


I'm riding with Don to every one he's willing to drive to...and paying for Mexican food of course :).

fryguy 07-25-2009 12:27 PM

28th and 29th will be tough

will definitely be there on the 3rd

tylerdurden 07-27-2009 06:51 AM

bump again.

July 28 and 29 and August 3rd are all chances for us to contribute and try and save our best spots. It's important to make as many as you can.

Holy Mackerel 07-28-2009 06:54 AM

BUMP!

Tman 07-28-2009 09:43 AM

Wrote a letter for Billy V to take up N, and I will be at the Cbad meetings....

Seems the enviros are helping to fund their own battle...hmmm....

joyjiggin' 07-28-2009 11:40 AM

I will be there on Aug. 3. Joy Oshima:)

Holy Mackerel 07-28-2009 01:07 PM

See ya on the 3rd Joy! :cool:

DESTROYER 07-28-2009 03:18 PM

I should be able to make the 3rd

Kayak Rookie 07-28-2009 08:46 PM

Agenda
 
It is less than 10 days before the meeting has the agenda been set? I have just started recently Kayak fishing and I am not up to speed at what happens at these meetings. Could some one explain the protocols? Do we speak? What is the amount of input you have as a audience member?

I very much enjoy fishing off the La Jolla shores. I have two boys that are hooked on fishing from kayaks. We have only been out 5 times and neither one of us has caught a monster but..... we have scored enough calico and lingcod to have a bunch of fish tacos!

If some one can give me some information I will try to miss work on the 3rd and make the morning part of the meeting. What is the agenda of BWE membership?

tylerdurden 07-28-2009 09:28 PM

August 3rd, the agenda is out on the DFG web page. In short public comment is scheduled at 3:30 pm. You must have your card turned in no later than 15 minutes before comment starts. I would show up by no later than 2:45 pm as comment doesn't always go on as scheduled. Please be polite to everyone, especially the people on the other side.

When you speak, speak about what you care about most. What spot is most important to you? What are your alternative closures?

Here is the agenda:

Quote:

California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative
South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group
Draft Meeting Agenda
(revised July 23, 2009)
Monday, August 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Holiday Inn
850 Palomar Airport Road
Carlsbad, CA 92008
* This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability,
please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or
Public Participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately two days after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp for more information.
Public Comment: The public is invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 3:30 pm. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.
Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp
Meeting Objectives
• Receive and discuss MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT), California Department of Fish and Game, California Department of Parks and Recreation, and MLPA staff goal 3 evaluations and MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force review of Round 2 marine protected area (MPA) proposals
• Receive presentation on key themes and suggestions from South Coast Summer Open Houses
• Discuss common elements and key geographies across draft MPA proposals to inform Round 3 MPA proposal development
• Receive direction on moving forward with Round 3 MPA proposals and work group process
800.735.2922 (voice) or contact the California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative at 916.654.1885.
MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group
August 3, 2009 Meeting
Draft Agenda (revised July 23, 2009)
2
Meeting Agenda - Monday August 3, 2009
Note: The SCRSG will break for lunch at approximately 11:30 a.m. and public comment will be taken at approximately 3:30 pm.
Welcome, Introductions and Review of the Agenda
I. Updates
A. Master Plan Science Advisory Team
B. MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force
C. Public Outreach and Education
D. Interim SCRSG Discussions
II. Developing Draft MPA Proposals for Round 3
E. BRTF Guidance and I-Team Direction for Round 3
F. Presentation of Draft MPA Proposals of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) and Revised MPA Proposals Developed External to the SCRSG Process
G. Summary of Common Elements and Key Geographies of Round 2 MPA Proposals
III. Summary of Evaluations of Proposal 0, Draft SCRSG MPA Proposals and Revised External MPA Proposals
H. Overview and Panel Discussion of SAT Methods and Analyses
I. Overview of MLPA Goal 3 Analysis
J. California Department of Fish and Game Feasibility Analysis
K. Overview of California Department of Parks and Recreation Analysis
IV. Next Steps and Preparation for Round 3
L. Guidance for SCRSG Evening Open House and August 4 Work Session
M. Wrap up and Next Steps
Adjourn
SCRSG Open House - Discussion of MPA Proposals by Key Geographies


If any one has any more questions go ahead and ask. This is important. Tonight at the BRTF meeting 100+ people showed up in with "MPAs Work" stickers, almost all pushed for Lapis 1 which would all but end kayak fishing in the ocean in San Diego County for 95% of us.

Billy V 07-28-2009 10:58 PM

This is a Do, or Die Meeting

The Enviro's who showed up today to rub Your Face in the gravel will no undoubtedly attend in Carlsbad to beat you down again.

-Its so much fun to do.
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Lets show some respect for our RSG members and attend these Final Meetings where you can make a difference.

Don't let the Enviro's steal the fight in the final few seconds.

Matt 07-29-2009 04:43 AM

Monday is an EXTREMELY hard day for me to take off, but I will do my best to be there....is it possible for someone to fill out a speaker card for me and tell me what time I need to be there to speak??? I am gonna do my best to be there!! SO SHOULD THE REST OF YOU!!

Grego 07-29-2009 07:16 AM

After yesterdays humiliation, I will be coming down on August 3rd to Carlsbad again for this meeting. I give you guys from SD a little slack for not coming up yesterday...but the LA guys were an embarassment in their attendance. Chase everyone off the water from LA/OC when they come down to fish....except me and a few others of course...I like catching your halibuts!:the_finger:

Siebler 07-29-2009 09:33 AM

Ill be in Oside Monday am So as long as my truck is back together Im going to make an effort to be there.

CurtyL 07-29-2009 10:54 AM

10-3 I'm there. I'll be the guy in an "I luv Seals" T-shirt.:rolleyes:


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