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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
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Not 1 defector in the bunch.
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 698
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Count me as a defector. I agree that mirage drives perform much better in windy/choppy conditions. I don't go out in those conditions much anymore. I prefer a paddle kayak all-around, less expensive, less maintenance, less risk, less things to forget at home or lose at the launch.
That said, the mirage drive is an excellent mechanical design, I'm still impressed with it's performance. |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 279
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6'3" 225 on my Outback.
I take my 2 boys on with me (one 65lbs. on the front one 80lbs. in the back). We all catch fish and move around find. Launching (by myself) at LJ is great. Drop the rudder and the drive in and cut through the waves like butter.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: OC
Posts: 397
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I tried....really, I did!
I must be the minority...After demoing both the Revo and Adventure (twice each) here is what I have found:
Both mirage drives were set to slot 7 (furthest out) to give me the most room available. Revo: when reaching full stride (bottom of pedal stroke) my knees are still quite bent and can't get a nice full stride like a bicycle. When trying to make a fuller stride, mirage drive "bottoms out". Adventure: More room (length) in the cockpit. Legs can get a full stride. At bottom of stride, heels hit the molded foot well on both sides with each revolution of the pedals. (Damn size 14 feet) Tried moving feet up higher on the pedals. Only way to get my heels to clear the foot wells was to position my arches on the middle of the pedal. Try this for 30min or so next time you are out and your feet will agree that this is not ideal. 1 Mile Time: Since the Adventure is considered the fastest yak in the fleet, I took it from point A to point B (about a mile) and reached the destination in approx. 19min. This was with a very consistent and relaxed cadence similar to what I thought I would be comfortable all day long while fishing. Made the same trip with an OK Trident 15, again with a very relaxed and consistent paddle stroke, and what do you know......19 min! Can't say anything bad about the Hobie's (other than I don't fit too well). For now, I am going to stick with the paddle as I just picked up a new yak ('08 Tarpon 160i) at a great price. (Thanks again, Dave!) |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,922
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I think I have the new offensive line to help out the chargers this year...
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chula Vista, CA
Posts: 65
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Steveoo, you don't want me on your football team, I'm a wuss when it comes to playing football. To much running around and getting hurt. I do pretty well at softball though.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: On The Water
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Pedro
Posts: 999
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Steveooo
thats actually a small o-line for high schools now a days ![]() and i played d-line anyways... besides i am a Raider fan ![]() oh my God... did i just type that? wait let me hit delete before i submit.... ![]() and all the San Diego boys wanna kick my ass... ![]() |
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#9 |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rancho Bernardo-San Diego
Posts: 117
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Chicks dig the longball
Paddling gives you bigger guns, guys.
Seriously, I would be concerned about a tow things with peddle power- a) I can turn my Cobra Maurader on a dime and chase off in another direction -- like when birds start crashing 400 yars behind. A hobie has to make a big circle.... and I would challenge almost any peddler to beat most padders to the spot in a sprint like that. b) How do you pack your rods into the dry hull on a tough day landing on a Hobie? Not possible... and, if you do this enough, you will encounter a crash landing now and then. Then there is the cost difference between the boats. Comments?
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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My response- A- Sailing rudder= Very tight turns. Plus, don't forget, we still always have a paddle. If it were easier or better to use a paddle to get somewhere or make a turn, we would use it. Fortunately, in most cases, it is more advantageous to use the paddles and rudder. I would bet that in a 400 yd turn then sprint, we would be pretty even. After that, I'd challenge you to a 6 mile sprint. ![]() B- When we went to catalina last year I put five rods and reels (up to 8 1/2 ft) inside my hobie. I even have a kayatank in the middle hatch. I have also done this OTW. Maybe not as easy as in a traditional yak, but still possible. I usually just leash and try not to flip. Yes there is a price difference- A Ferrari is more expensive than a Kia. Sure your guns may be bigger, but I have a HUGE A$$ from kicking that thing around the ocean. I'll build my guns through ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Location: Bay Ho
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: OC
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[quote=steveooo;31469]I think I have the new offensive line to help out the chargers this year...
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Lahina (I Wish)
Posts: 272
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Paddle or Peddle
I have an X-Factor, bought it at OEX Sunset!
![]() I was told by a few Peddlers, that they suffer form lower back pain after long rides….is that true? ![]()
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I eats what I kills
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: San Diego
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Those people that told you that must not have their seat/peddles set up correctly.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: On the water
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Regarding the back pain - my back hurt the first few times a little. Probably just getting used to the correct angles, etc...I haven't had a problem since.
As for stowing the rods (the comment that you couldn't in a Hobie)...that's just complete misinformation. In both the Adventure & Revolution I've stowed my rods & reels tons of times with no issues. ![]() What people forget is that you still have a paddle if you own a Hobie. I used to paddle my Adventure all over the place. I used a rod leash and tossed my pedals behind my stuff in the tankwell and off I went. I'm in or around kelp all the time - you can bring the pedal drive opening plug (AKA cassette something or other) and pop it in and it's a paddle kayak. I will admit that the tracking isn't the best while paddling. I have the Revo now and you seem to fight it a little. I just drop my rudder down (the rudder control is fairly tight) and that seems to help quite a bit. I know of someone who went to a Hobie and then went back, but for every one of them I know a dozen more who went to the Hobie and stayed. It's not for everyone but they're pretty awesome yaks IMO. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 278
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For anyone who bought a Hobie and wants to go back, I would gladly trade my Prowler 13 for a Hobie.
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