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Old 02-01-2011, 11:57 AM   #1
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#1 get those damn commercial buoys out of the jewel!!!!!!

#2 when it isnt crowded, and people still drive (yaks) up behind my flylines or following me too close or fowling me up!?...
drives me CRAZY!?!?!!?!?!.........give some distance.. its the pacific, not lake murry! then again its only going to get worse soon..


speaking of which..im dreading the outcome in Oct when the season reopens with the new closures in place...i can only imagine the commercial will be then set up even worse in "OUR" zone..

ARrrrRRrRrGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:18 PM   #2
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As Joe said, one should always be aware if where the other guy's line is. If you plan to cross someone's path to the stern, ask if the other guy has a line out. Similarly, if you cross in front of someone while trolling, be mindful of where your line is.

Drifting can be another problem. It is easy to drift into someone's space which can lead to tangled lines. It is a big ocean, just be respectful of everyone who is using it.

Of course there is the ultimate sin of cracking open a cold beer and not offering some to the rest of the fleet. If you get caught doing that, you might have to duck a few errant casts from thirsty yakfishers nearby. Most new guys usually fill the back hatch with a case or two of cold ones, just to be safe.

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Old 02-01-2011, 12:20 PM   #3
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#1 get those damn commercial buoys out of the jewel!!!!!!

#2 when it isnt crowded, and people still drive (yaks) up behind my flylines or following me too close or fowling me up!?...
drives me CRAZY!?!?!!?!?!.........give some distance.. its the pacific, not lake murry! then again its only going to get worse soon..


speaking of which..im dreading the outcome in Oct when the season reopens with the new closures in place...i can only imagine the commercial will be then set up even worse in "OUR" zone..

ARrrrRRrRrGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's just cause they want to be in your next video...
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:38 PM   #4
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Lol ....taking notes here Bob. Help put me on fish and the cerveza shall flow
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:20 PM   #5
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for the really new guys, try & visualize where someones lines might be and dont cross over them..
On some packed days it really helps out to use a little common sense.. if your driving on top of a guys flylines, he wont get bit..
i give a yell sometimes to others, and ask em' "what rig u running?" & "how far back" out of common courtesy..
take current into consideration also..I personally wont drive up into a guys "zone" and will paddle completely around him to get to my desired destination..

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Old 02-01-2011, 01:31 PM   #6
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I agree with Wade, it is not only the lines but the fishing area behind someone trolling or drifting with a flylined bait that you should be careful of. Particularly when you are new to paddling (slap chopping) and/or when the are around. and don't cutoff their route as they troll or drift.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:44 PM   #7
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for the really new guys, try & visualize where someones lines might be and dont cross over them.
hahaha, and for the "really new guys"...

If you ever want to learn anything about fishing la jolla all you need to do is search "madscientist"

you might just learn something yourself Wade
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:14 PM   #8
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hahaha, and for the "really new guys"...

If you ever want to learn anything about fishing la jolla all you need to do is search "madscientist"

you might just learn something yourself Wade
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i dont claim to be the king of the Jewel , nor do i think that even remotely if that is what your alluding to....
i lurked on this board for many years before even registering..but... I have been at it on plastic for ten years if that counts for squat?..
thankfully, i learn something new EVERY time i go out..
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Here's one; stay away from the party boats. That includes the chumm line off the stern and the free fly iron zone off the bow. I know they come in on us but don't play tit for tat. I've seen guys so close to the stern of the New Seaforth poaching thier chumm line. That makes all of us look bad. Mike
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Old 02-01-2011, 06:24 PM   #10
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Lol ....taking notes here Bob. Help put me on fish and the cerveza shall flow
I've been told that the Darkhorse will fish for beer, (plus a small consulting fee). You can't do better than that.

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Old 02-01-2011, 10:13 PM   #11
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Thanks all for the replies. Hopefully I won't make too much of a hash of it when I venture out of the bay. Now to scratch up a case of modelo and find that darkhorse guy.....
See you guys out there.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:04 PM   #12
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I've been told that the Darkhorse will fish for beer, (plus a small consulting fee). You can't do better than that.

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For the record: When fishing with new clients---the beer stays on ice until a Yellowtail or giant White Sea Bass is on deck! After that, if you so desire to celebrate the life of your trophy, I'm not going to stop ya' .
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As far as the original post, there's already plenty of great advice in this thread. Pretty much everything's been covered.

Something that comes to mind, though, is during a squid bite---I don't mean sitting in a couple mile wide area full of squid---I'm talking about an actual bite, when every rod in the fleet starts bending in sequence like we're doing the wave at a baseball game ---communicate with anyone in your zone when you hook up. Be polite, but make sure you get the surrounding anglers attention if they don't realize you're on. Watch your line, and warn anyone who might get caught up in your fish.

The same way you'd communicate on a sportboat when you're coming down the rail with a fish on, work together with your surrounding anglers. Just like fishing on a sportboat, it's far better to avoid a tangle then the alternative. Ya' know, sitting there in free-spool, waiting for that guy to land his fish? I don't know about you, but that's not my idea of a good time.

You're stoked if it's a deckhand or some old salt---short-pumping the Yellowtail to gaff in thirty seconds. But, if it's some guy who hasn't caught a solid fish in years---good luck! The bite could be over by the time you get out of the tangled mess. I see it all the time: guys with two rigs down, staring like a Deer in headlights as you're flying towards them. It makes no sense.

I'll guess I'll add something to the typical, warm-water, fly-line trolling situations you'll find, too. Something I often see is, someone trolling right across your heading, say 100' in front of you---then they just stop and sit there. No, I don't mean they saw an epic mark on the HDS and dropped and iron. I mean stop for no apparent reason, other than making you look at them, for minutes, and change coarse. If you realize you're in this situation, though, just keep moving forward so the other guy doesn't have to change coarse. I'm sure 99% of the time this isn't on purpose. So, no harm no foul.

Don't get me wrong, there's no straight lines in the ocean. Not to mention, the ocean isn't mine. Obviously. At the same time, the ocean is freakin' huge. Don't try to make it seem small .
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