Bonking, Sugar and Hoopnetting... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBeck

Jim,

I have never bonked hoop-netting although I do not really hoop net very often. I do run many marathons, compete in triathlons as well as century bike rides (100 mile +) each year and have bonked during those activities. High endurance activities cause muscle fatigue and your body to use up all its energy.... hitting a wall (yes there is a much more scientific explanation I won't go into). Basically the energy to power your muscles come from ATP formed from metabolism of fats and carbohydrates. Your body prefers to use carbohydrates which are stored as glucose in your blood, muscles and liver. Unfortunately your stores of glycogen are limited. Most endurance athletes are able to store somewhere around 2000 to 2200 calories worth, good for about 20 miles if you don't restore while running you hit a wall. This is where energy drinks and eating high carbohydrates come in. Endurance athletes also have high carbohydrate diets low carb diets don't work, you will hit a wall.

It is possible that with loading your kayak, paddling and then the workout of pulling and dropping and your current physical shape (what ever it is good or bad) you are burning through your stored energy. Eating more carbs in your diet will help. Also eating while you are on the kayak as well as a sports drink.

Gatorade is high in carbs and sugar I like Gatorade but also enjoy Nuun it is conveinient because you just put a tablet in water and you are good to go. So you can drink water but if you are feeling low on energy pop one of these in
http://www.nuun.com/

Gu energy works great for endurance events but who wants to suck this crap down when fishing. Eat energy bars, I like cliff bars and luna bars. Luna bars are marketed towards women athletes but they taste much better than others. Try the Lemon Bar!

When you work out you also sweat out your salt which your body depends on, without the salts you are likely to cramp. Eat trail mix, salted peanuts, sunflower seeds, trailmix bars

Eat a good high carb meal before going out Pasta, potatoes, pancakes, breads

Recover with protein. Chocolate milk, fresh fish, fresh lobster with carbs! rice, pasta, sourdough bread

This would explain why i been craving carbohydrates lately. I pull an all day Saturday kayaking, and then during the week im like i need bread, cookie, CHEESECAKE.

T Bone · 02-03-2011, 03:26 PM

Nothing is as bad as "Bonking while Boinking" followed by a good leg cramp...

BT · 02-03-2011, 04:42 PM

I always drink gatorade jim while out there...and eat a carne asada burrito. but I am a fat ass! Gatorade seems to help.

roby · 02-03-2011, 08:15 PM

grape juice, whey protein, and greens +

Sip it throughout your next hoop-netting trip...you get your sugar, protein & gut health, and if you missed your veggies that day you are covered.

THE DARKHORSE · 02-03-2011, 08:19 PM

So my advice should be obvious: eat food

m1k3midg3 · 02-03-2011, 08:28 PM

im soooo glad im young and dont have to worry about running out of sugar in my blood lololololol

jorluivil · 02-03-2011, 10:11 PM

Do you think that maybe you bonk because you're overworking yourself? How about letting the nets soak for 15-20 minutes instead of your traditional 5 minutes? I tend to set two 'honeyhole' nets and the other three are scattered so that once I do start to pull it will take 20-30 minutes between the time I pull the first and last. Once the last is pulled I sit back, gather my senses and relax.

My buddy has the same issue, that's one of the reasons he's selling his yak now, he tends to loose energy quickly. It wasn't uncommon for him to carry 32oz soda and a small ziplock filled with bite sized Snickers....maybe you should do the same.

Fiskadoro · 02-03-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE

So my advice should be obvious: eat food

LOL... Who said your a fatass...

Yeah us skinny F#@KS don't have the reserves you have, but yeah I should definatly eat something

jorluivil · 02-03-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Day

LOL... Who said your a fatass...

Yeah us skinny F#@KS don't have the reserves you have, but yeah I should definatly eat something

Maybe that's why I don't have that issue. I'm 5'11" and weigh 230lbs

taggermike · 02-05-2011, 12:30 PM

I hate hoopin but I used to night fish SD Bay for corvina off the kayak and during the grunion runs. I never bonked but I definately tired out when it got way past my bed time. One thing that helped me was to eat something like a second dinner before I hit the water. Nothing too heavy, maybe a burrito or a PB&J. I stayed away from the caffene becasue I wanted to be able to fall asleep when I got home. Mike

02-03-2011, 03:26 PM	#2
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	Nothing is as bad as "Bonking while Boinking" followed by a good leg cramp... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

02-03-2011, 04:42 PM	#3
BT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Carlos Posts: 202	I always drink gatorade jim while out there...and eat a carne asada burrito. but I am a fat ass! Gatorade seems to help. __________________ if your brain had fists, you could only hurt yourself!

02-03-2011, 08:19 PM	#5
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	I'm a fat a$$, too... So my advice should be obvious: eat food __________________

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02-03-2011, 08:15 PM	#4
roby CEO of Team Roby Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 905	grape juice, whey protein, and greens + Sip it throughout your next hoop-netting trip...you get your sugar, protein & gut health, and if you missed your veggies that day you are covered.

02-03-2011, 08:28 PM	#6
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	im soooo glad im young and dont have to worry about running out of sugar in my blood lololololol

02-03-2011, 10:11 PM	#7
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Do you think that maybe you bonk because you're overworking yourself? How about letting the nets soak for 15-20 minutes instead of your traditional 5 minutes? I tend to set two 'honeyhole' nets and the other three are scattered so that once I do start to pull it will take 20-30 minutes between the time I pull the first and last. Once the last is pulled I sit back, gather my senses and relax. My buddy has the same issue, that's one of the reasons he's selling his yak now, he tends to loose energy quickly. It wasn't uncommon for him to carry 32oz soda and a small ziplock filled with bite sized Snickers....maybe you should do the same.

02-05-2011, 12:30 PM	#10
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I hate hoopin but I used to night fish SD Bay for corvina off the kayak and during the grunion runs. I never bonked but I definately tired out when it got way past my bed time. One thing that helped me was to eat something like a second dinner before I hit the water. Nothing too heavy, maybe a burrito or a PB&J. I stayed away from the caffene becasue I wanted to be able to fall asleep when I got home. Mike