Talked to the DFG today - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dsafety · 01-06-2012, 07:10 PM

I know that I am preaching to the choir here but these bogus new regulations really piss me off. Forget for a moment that the process that created them was corrupt. From a practical perspective, I wonder how in the hell will anyone without GPS coordinates programed into a device with some sort of an alarm have any idea if they have crossed into the unmarked forbidden zone? Do the authorities really expect average citizens to be able to recognize the new boundaries without buoys or some other type of clear markings?

I learned from another post that the buoys marking the former reserve have moved over time and that no one bothered reset them. Have we all been breaking the law for years? I don't know anyone who would intentionally fish in a reserve but I bet that this is where most of us have been catching our bait for a long time.

I will do my best to obey the new rules but if push comes to shove I will not go down without a fight. I suspect that most of us feel the same way. Maybe the best thing to do is what my friend Martin, (TMan) has suggested. Get the section in the California constitution that says that all citizens will forever be granted the right to fish in California coastal waters laminated, and wear it around your neck instead of a fishing license.

Bob

GregAndrew · 01-06-2012, 07:53 PM

Bob, the irony is that one of the fundamental principles of a successful MPA is for it to be clearly marked. Another is that they need to be enforced. The touted benefits that they all claimed will never come to existence without meeting the requirements of a successful MPA. Poachers, both intentional and not, will keep these areas from ever becoming mega egg producing factories.

mbaha · 01-07-2012, 01:56 PM

Well judging by the lobster pots all over the new area of the reserve, the lobster men are still going by the old boundaries. Has anyone been down to SLJ? I'm curious if they are still trapping in that reserve too.

01-06-2012, 07:10 PM	#1
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	I know that I am preaching to the choir here but these bogus new regulations really piss me off. Forget for a moment that the process that created them was corrupt. From a practical perspective, I wonder how in the hell will anyone without GPS coordinates programed into a device with some sort of an alarm have any idea if they have crossed into the unmarked forbidden zone? Do the authorities really expect average citizens to be able to recognize the new boundaries without buoys or some other type of clear markings? I learned from another post that the buoys marking the former reserve have moved over time and that no one bothered reset them. Have we all been breaking the law for years? I don't know anyone who would intentionally fish in a reserve but I bet that this is where most of us have been catching our bait for a long time. I will do my best to obey the new rules but if push comes to shove I will not go down without a fight. I suspect that most of us feel the same way. Maybe the best thing to do is what my friend Martin, (TMan) has suggested. Get the section in the California constitution that says that all citizens will forever be granted the right to fish in California coastal waters laminated, and wear it around your neck instead of a fishing license. Bob

01-06-2012, 07:53 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Bob, the irony is that one of the fundamental principles of a successful MPA is for it to be clearly marked. Another is that they need to be enforced. The touted benefits that they all claimed will never come to existence without meeting the requirements of a successful MPA. Poachers, both intentional and not, will keep these areas from ever becoming mega egg producing factories.

01-07-2012, 01:56 PM	#3
mbaha Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 49	Well judging by the lobster pots all over the new area of the reserve, the lobster men are still going by the old boundaries. Has anyone been down to SLJ? I'm curious if they are still trapping in that reserve too.