Anyone else feel the same?

[seriola_killer]

Originally Posted by lterrero

I can buy a PA every time I have to pay the rent and the most sad part of it, or TAX MONEY, goes to Israel and mid east war

Jeezus! We could name hundreds of things that our tax money goes to that never seem to pan out. Dept. of Education, Nat'l. Endowment of the Arts, Needle Exchange Programs, etc...

Gonna get completely roasted on this I am sure, but do you know what those big, greedy, evil, capitalist pig oil companies make per gallon of gas?

5 fuckin cents!


Do you know how much the state and federal gov't gets?

45 cents!

So, who's really the ones screwin' you?


I didn't make this shit up, but facts are facts, and numbers are numbers, and neither one of them lie. These numbers have absolutely nothing to do with politics, they just are what they are.


Alright, I'll get off my soapbox now!

[Baja_Traveler]

You hit the nail on the head Seriola - every bit of it true...

[Devildawgjj]

Originally Posted by seriola_killer

Jeezus! We could name hundreds of things that our tax money goes to that never seem to pan out. Dept. of Education, Nat'l. Endowment of the Arts, Needle Exchange Programs, etc...

Gonna get completely roasted on this I am sure, but do you know what those big, greedy, evil, capitalist pig oil companies make per gallon of gas?

5 fuckin cents!


Do you know how much the state and federal gov't gets?

45 cents!

So, who's really the ones screwin' you?


I didn't make this shit up, but facts are facts, and numbers are numbers, and neither one of them lie. These numbers have absolutely nothing to do with politics, they just are what they are.


Alright, I'll get off my soapbox now!

It's more than that....


http://www.api.org/Oil-and-Natural-G...l-summary.ashx

[seriola_killer]

The 45 cents was just a national average that I remembered from a couple of years ago. It's comforting to know that the average has gone up, though.

[mtnbykr2]

kinda makes you want to puke doesn't it...and I disagree, it is all political...the oil companies and wall street speculators own the government, they just don't want you to know about it

[seriola_killer]

Originally Posted by mtnbykr2

kinda makes you want to puke doesn't it...and I disagree, it is all political...the oil companies and wall street speculators own the government, they just don't want you to know about it

For the most part, when government gets involved things get fucked up. Here's the best analogy to government control, er, uh, er, assistance:

"If it moves, tax it"
"If it keeps moving, regulate it"
"When it stops moving, subsidize it"

-- Ronald Reagan (when asked what's wrong with our government, his answer to current government philosophy).


Now we have people trying to stay in power pitting classes against each other unabashedly. I don't begrudge anyone who has become wealthy, or even obscenely wealthy. Good for them. But if I hear that the "rich people" need to pay "their fair share" any more, I'm gonna lose my mind. What the fuck is "their fair share" anyways? It's so vague, much like the platitudes these self-absorbed power-craving assholes always speak in. And it's designed to get us fighting with each other while they run off with all the fuckin' money.

If it weren't for "the rich" none of us would be driving cars, floating in kayaks, using the latest and greatest of jigsticks, or even bitching online about the lack of fishing reports because none of us would own a computer.

Sorry for jackin' your thread Neil! Let's go kill some shit soon!

[mtnbykr2]

Well put my friend...well put...now let's go get some fish

[robmandel]

here's the real story ( I teach econ in high school and formerly at local junior college)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ets/tables.pdf

table S-4

Mandatory spending (soc. sec, medicare, ALL entitlements): $2073 billion
Interest on Debt: $230 billion

Tax Reciepts (all sources): $2303 billion

In other words EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR of tax revenue goes to entitlements and debt service. The paperclips on your congressshit's desk were paid for with borrowed (i.e. printed by the fed) money. The bullets our servicemen are shooting at the bad guys, yep, on the credit card. Etc.

the federal government is simply a middleman between those who earn income and those third parties who claim some part of other's income as their birthright, who've done nothing for it other than demand it. Oh, and vote for "the state", as it has the guns to take it from you and give it to them.

end the system of fiat, debt-backed currency.

I have a funny example of this. I collect/invest in "junk silver", pre-'65 coins with NO collector value. I brought in a 1951 quarter to class. In 1951, it bought almost a gallon of gas. Today, it buys MORE than a gallon of gas. That's correct, a quarter will purchase a gallon of gas. But it has to be a real quarter, made out of real metal. Real money never loses value, it only increases in value.

but of course that would reign in the state. it would end the welfare/warfare state.

one can only dream. in the meantime, I'll try to find time to fish!!

[Yakin]

Originally Posted by Devildawgjj

It's more than that....


http://www.api.org/Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Overview/Industry-Economics/~/media/Files/Statistics/gasoline-diesel-summary.ashx

LETS MOVE TO ALASKA AND KILL SOME GAINT HALI!!

[ful-rac]

Originally Posted by seriola_killer

Jeezus! We could name hundreds of things that our tax money goes to that never seem to pan out. Dept. of Education, Nat'l. Endowment of the Arts, Needle Exchange Programs, etc...

Hey don't forget our tax payer money did go to making a pretty cool music video..! And an all taxpayer paid awards ceremony for said video in vegas!

Taxpayer gas: $4.00=
Fed Employee: $0.00+ Gov vehicle+awards ceremony/vacation+per diem+regular pay=
Federal employees.....God bless'em! They are truly gods people!