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Old 07-15-2013, 03:48 PM   #1
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What you see in the background just little under 6 miles out form the launch is LJ, PB and Point Loma. On the other side of the rod is lil' 10# dodo hen.



Years ago, we mothershiped mini-yak on my lil' boat and had a lot of fun.

It can be done, but you've got to be careful. IMHO, off-shore is no safe place for a kayak, unless mother-shipped.

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Old 07-16-2013, 09:32 AM   #2
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Go get 'em!

Adi take this in the best possible way.
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Mothership, my eye.
That is such a cheater move it doesn't bear mentioning. Might have been on water wings or a pool noodle if you're going to MS w/in sight of land. Why even get in the water, once you found them? Might as well just fish them.


Me and CaboJohn take at least one 20+mi offshore paddle every Summer --and are planning our next shot w/in the next few weeks. It's roughly a triangle w 7mi legs. I advise to leave early (being ~5mi off by sunrise), be very visible (a flag is good), have all your safety gear in order including flares and horn, and don't get in over your head! 7 miles is an average to light day at LJ. Now triple that, with constant paddling and very little "fishing". When the water's right (Aug-Sep) there are yt and dodo and yft w/in yak range. Just don't take looking for them lightly. And mothershipping to them doesn't count.

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Old 07-17-2013, 09:25 AM   #3
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The holy grail of kayak fishing (for me) is being able to paddle out from terra firma (Orange County Beaches) and coming back with YFT and/or Dorado. THIS is what keeps my butt in a kayak!
Having the exotics within paddle range is exciting but having thousands of Dorado boil all around you and HUGE schools of YFT right under your yak in OC will give any angler a boner. ha

Zed- Its ON brother.

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Old 07-17-2013, 10:07 AM   #4
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Zed,

I hear you. It is unlikely that I would ever get worked up by anything said by any of the folks that have 2005 in their BWE join date.

Personally, I've never had a strong stand on the whole mothershipped kayak versus launched from the shore. I recognize and respect the fact that other folks do. That one is as old as the Waders of Death.

For me, I don't even care what I'm on - hooking and landing that fish is the part I'm attracted to the most... Now - hooking, fighting and landing any of those fish from a kayak versus from a boat IS a different experience, both being fun. Given the nature of offshore game, and the fact that it's all about covering ground to see/find that situation where you may score, I just feel kayak is highly disadvantaged. Instead of finding and playing with that offshore fish, your biggest challenge is actually making it there, and making it back safely. And you better have your shit in order for that, and years of experience under your belt, to pull that off. Sure thing that you and John do, but vast majority of people that may be bouncing these ideas now likely don't.

There has been these offshore trips in the past, search forums for more dope. If you go, make sure you are ready for it, have safety gear, be ready to be paddling a ton, be ready for the winds and currents you'd have to deal with. It is no easy drill.

I am just trying to make sure we don't read about any of those kayak offshore trips in the news...
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:44 AM   #5
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Zed,

I hear you. It is unlikely that I would ever get worked up by anything said by any of the folks that have 2005 in their BWE join date.

Personally, I've never had a strong stand on the whole mothershipped kayak versus launched from the shore. I recognize and respect the fact that other folks do. That one is as old as the Waders of Death.

For me, I don't even care what I'm on - hooking and landing that fish is the part I'm attracted to the most... Now - hooking, fighting and landing any of those fish from a kayak versus from a boat IS a different experience, both being fun. Given the nature of offshore game, and the fact that it's all about covering ground to see/find that situation where you may score, I just feel kayak is highly disadvantaged. Instead of finding and playing with that offshore fish, your biggest challenge is actually making it there, and making it back safely. And you better have your shit in order for that, and years of experience under your belt, to pull that off. Sure thing that you and John do, but vast majority of people that may be bouncing these ideas now likely don't.

There has been these offshore trips in the past, search forums for more dope. If you go, make sure you are ready for it, have safety gear, be ready to be paddling a ton, be ready for the winds and currents you'd have to deal with. It is no easy drill.

I am just trying to make sure we don't read about any of those kayak offshore trips in the news...
What wold you recommend someone do for conditioning? I consider my self to be in great shape and am interested in doing or joining an event like this.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:37 AM   #6
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^Stupid answer, but:
Paddle a lot.

Try 2hours of paddling then rest/rebuild and 2hours back. That should put you at 12-16miles. Then try 3 reps. Its like running or riding you get in the zone and time just passes w/o much thought. In the trips I've done, the final leg with a following push/pull mixed windswell will work you, hard, harder than you would think. Like running with a chute that deploys/folds over and over.

As said, it's not for everyone. ADD/ADHD need not apply. Those that hate the "Beautiful day for paddling; fishing sucked" type of reports, need not apply. It's a crapshoot in a big ocean. I always fished, but love paddling so either way I'm happy. The worst part (to me) is having the cigarette-type boats inside of you doing, 60+mph on the Dana->Newport run, but they rarely get their asses in the water by 1000. From Dana you will also be in the lanes for Avalon day-trippers. Beware. They also don't get out before 1000.
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^Stupid answer, but:
Paddle a lot.

Try 2hours of paddling then rest/rebuild and 2hours back. That should put you at 12-16miles. Then try 3 reps. Its like running or riding you get in the zone and time just passes w/o much thought. In the trips I've done, the final leg with a following push/pull mixed windswell will work you, hard, harder than you would think. Like running with a chute that deploys/folds over and over.

As said, it's not for everyone. ADD/ADHD need not apply. Those that hate the "Beautiful day for paddling; fishing sucked" type of reports, need not apply. It's a crapshoot in a big ocean. I always fished, but love paddling so either way I'm happy. The worst part (to me) is having the cigarette-type boats inside of you doing, 60+mph on the Dana->Newport run, but they rarely get their asses in the water by 1000. From Dana you will also be in the lanes for Avalon day-trippers. Beware. They also don't get out before 1000.
Sorry I'm new at this but when I said I'm in shape I can run 10-12 miles and still swim 2000M run a military obstacle course 3x with flack Kevlar and rifle and still manage to go back and encourage my fellow peers. I think I'm in good shape but that's just me.
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