Your days of eating Pacific Ocean fish are soon over...

[Hobie-Pedaller]

Originally Posted by beef78

It's actually closer to 1000 - 2000 rads for a single dose, which is impossible in the amounts released for japan....

yes, those levels are for rapidly killing a person, directly from exposure to radiation.

anyone with any knowledge of radiation & the contamination levels in Japan, would concur we are not at a realistic risk for that.

Originally Posted by beef78

....What really gets you is when you intake the contamination. Some of the contamination builds up in vital organs. It's the small amounts of radiation from the contamination in your body that, over time, increases your risk for cancer...

yes, risk for cancer, and other internal health issues.

THIS is the potential risk that many all around the Pacific ocean are POSSIBLY subject to.

and MORE radioactive contamination is CONTINUALLY leaking out into Pacific waters EVERY DAY, with no definitive end in sight.

impossible to predict exactly what issues may evolve in future, and it will likely be many years before all is known here, but there is certainly a potential health threat going on here.

Originally Posted by Old Man in the Sea

There is SOME truth to it unfortunately...the dirty rods on the roof that exploded is a concern and the 2 reactors that started meltdown. The fact it is a "level 3" is a concern...I do not trust Japan or Tepco to tell us the truth about how much is leaking out...I am glad we are in San Diego and not Seattle....

those are my sentiments on this topic as well.


here's more of my thoughts on this, from another thread on this board.....

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...411#post168411

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[wiredantz]

I eat fish myself, but I am very concerned about what my children eat.

As I do not know what the effect of eating to much contaminated fish will have on my children's children down the road.


just my 2 cents

[Steve W.]

Everyone should stop fishing at La Jolla immediately, it's not safe!!!

[beef78]

Originally Posted by wiredantz

I eat fish myself, but I am very concerned about what my children eat.

As I do not know what the effect of eating to much contaminated fish will have on my children's children down the road.


just my 2 cents

It is true that children are more sensitive to radiation.

[RockyRaab]

I agree that it's bullchips.

I wouldn't eat fish that came from a few miles off the Fukashima beach, but I'd have no qualms about fish from anywhere else.

Dilution alone is enough to reduce released radiation materials to safe levels. The uproar about all Pacific Ocean fish being contaminated is like claiming that a fart on Pike's Peak endangers the air over Omaha.

[Hobie-Pedaller]

Originally Posted by RockyRaab

I agree that it's bullchips.

....is like claiming that a fart on Pike's Peak endangers the air over Omaha.

comparing a fart, to 2-1/2 years AND COUNTING, of CONTINUAL leaking radioactive water, flowing out of the reactor site, is both comical & absurd.


the leaking & contamination problem continues, and is not even close to a solution or resolution yet.
likely not even known by anyone yet, what all problems & issues are facing the repair & cleanup process.....


Why Fukushima is worse than you think:

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....han-you-think/

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[RockyRaab]

All due respect, but comedy is what I was aiming at. If you like, here's a more apt analogy: The Mississippi River has been dumping cubic miles of sediment into the ocean for thousands of years - and the oceans aren't muddy yet. The bad stuff coming from Fukashima may be a lot more dangerous than mud, but it's comparative trickle as well.

[food4less562]

I've worked as a marine biologist for the last 10 years. Let me just say everything that gets reported isn't the full truth. You really can't really complain when the hippies are paying your bills.

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Hobie-Pedaller

comparing a fart, to 2-1/2 years AND COUNTING, of CONTINUAL leaking radioactive water, flowing out of the reactor site, is both comical & absurd.

They claim that there is 300 to 450 tons a day of waste water leaking into the Pacific. First off that claim is a lie. At one point someone estimated that on a single day when they had containment failure that amount of water might of leaked but that was just one day fairly recently and there's no way that is happening every day.

Think about this a minute. There are 240 gallons in a ton so they're talking roughly 100 thousand gallons. Sounds like a lot, and it is. Know what a acre foot is? It's the amount of water it would take to cover a acre of land a foot deep. Something like 320 thousand gallons. So were talking about a third of that each day, which is the size of a small shallow lake.

OK I'll bite where's all that water supposed to be coming from? 100 thousand gallons a day is million gallons every ten days. 36.5 million gallons a year. Lots' of water. I mean is there like a huge lake there I've not seen? Are they pumping that much water into there through pumps from the Ocean? Someone left a fire hose or two on for several years now? Have you considered how hard it would be to even move that much radioactive water in a single day or for several years?

Let's pretend it's true though.

Have you consider that something like 2/3 of the whole planets water is in the Pacific Ocean.

187,189,915,062,857,142,857 Gallons.

So the ratio of dirty water to clean is something insane like 1 to 1871899150628570

Perhaps someone can figure out how to make that fraction into a percentage, I'm not even going to try, but I can assure you that the amount of contaminated water, to clean water in the Pacific is a very very very small percentage.

Yet people want to tell me that my Halibut is radioactive, and I'm eating radiation from Japan. I find it hard to believe. In fact I would be amazed if a single particle of the radioactive waste ever makes into my body through fish consumption just because the Pacific is so big.

You ever hear of the AN602 hydrogen Bomb the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated? Soviets blew it up in the artic ocean during my lifetime. It's power was equivalent to roughly 3000 Hiroshima bombs and it's fireball was something like 10 miles in diameter. It shook the whole planet, it's cloud went right up to space, It was big ugly and scared the hell out of everyone.

People said it was going to poison the whole planet, but you know what? We're still here.

Before that the US alone did 331 above ground tests many of which were in the Pacific at the Bikini atoll. The French did over fifty above ground tests mostly in Pacific at Polynesia. Which do you think puts more radiation into the Pacific, a 100 thermonuclear warheads or 100 thousand gallons of waste water?


You're right comparing a fart, to 2-1/2 years leaking radioactive water, flowing out of the reactor site, is both comical & absurd, but only because the volume of a fart compared to the scale of an average room is much much larger in percentage to the total volume by over a thousand fold.

If you took an eyedropper of that same contaminated water and dropped a single drop into Lake Mead you'd probably be creating a higher concentration of radioactive material in the water then you could get from dropping that 450 tons into the whole of the Pacific.

You see it's simply about scale. You couldn't run enough water through that plant in a hundred years to produce the levels of radiation off the California that's being claimed in that article.

Physical impossibility, is not happening, can't be done. Can't be true.

[Fiskadoro]

I like this article even better:

http://nationalreport.net/breaking-f...es-ocean-boil/

"Almost two hours after today’s incident what’s being called the “Fukushima Plume of Death” is rapidly bearing down on Hawaii. It’s estimated once Hawaii is hit California will be hit about 90 minutes after."

Yes indeed a radiation plume that can move from Hawaii to California in just 90 minutes !!!!!!!!

Roughly 2500 miles. That's faster then the speed of sound

[Jimmyz123]

Life's too short to worry about this all the time, we're all going to die someday whether it's from stuff that we eat, or just the way life is, it's going to happen.

Eat up!