If you see this guy on the water - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

rhyak · 05-09-2014, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bubblehide

For Reds, they look to be on the small side. And considering that her hair is dry, I'd have to guess that whoever took the photo got at least 1 of those.

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

bus kid · 05-09-2014, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rhyak

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

oooohhhhh that's a abalone in her hand, sorry my bad.

StinkyMatt · 05-09-2014, 06:18 AM

She looks legal!

Original post was completely different.....we were talking about perfectly LEGAL harvest activities.

kayachapi · 05-09-2014, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

oooohhhhh that's a abalone in her hand, sorry my bad.

Hahahahah!

kareem korn · 05-09-2014, 07:41 AM

Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that

wiredantz · 05-09-2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kareem korn

Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that

I think this conversation is better suited for the people who makes the fishing regulations. History has shown that people have trouble doing what is morally right.* Its like cheating on your wife knowing that she will never find out. What human law is their to say it is illegal to cheat on your wife, yet people still do it. etc.

kareem korn · 05-09-2014, 08:11 AM

Yeah, it's just a shame to see.
It's even worse when some dont see a problem with it.

wiredantz · 05-09-2014, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kareem korn

Yeah, it's just a shame to see.
It's even worse when some dont see a problem with it.

that is the world we live in.

William Novotny · 05-09-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kareem korn

Yeah, it's just a shame to see.
It's even worse when some dont see a problem with it.

I understand your point and I agree with you to an extent. I would not advertise the keep of a small thresher. I also know what I can afford to keep and what will go to waste if i kill it. The t in the original link is a little smaller then what I would feel comfortable killing. The pup in your second picture would get released for sure, but anything over 50# for me would also go to waste for sure. 2 years ago I targeted thresher for the sport of it and kept 1 70# fish for the bbq. I had to give away allot of meat. Just didn't have room for it. I didn't mean for it to sound likei have no moral obligation outside of my responsibilities to the law. I don't report thresher catches any more because I feel it contributes to their over targeting.

DanaPT · 05-10-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kareem korn

Yeah, it's just a shame to see.
It's even worse when some dont see a problem with it.

I love baby cow!

and have heard that baby seal meat is good eats too!

TJones · 05-09-2014, 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=kareem korn;193527]Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that[/

Zed · 05-09-2014, 08:29 AM

Ive said this so many times over the years but taking a thresher is a huge PITA.
Ive been involved w 2. Mine was the 4th I caught and I wanted to eat one. The care involved to keep it good is extensive. You have to have the space to dress it then chill it then clean it then store it all after you get the damn thing to shore.

The second I was involved w taking died head down in the mud in 300' off Laguna. It had to be winched up tail first the last 20min and it was muddy past its pecs. That one was well over 100 and was an exponential PITA. It gets harder to keep it good w everything involved in prep.

I recco you have your ice and giant chest ready before you go out. Get to the beach fast and get it cool fast. Dress it then pack w ice and let it chill maybe overnight. Then sharpen your knife and get to steaking w breaks to resharpen your knife often.

To me now they are a pain and a pest and Id rather spend the time treating hemorrhoids or getting a root canal.

Zed · 05-09-2014, 08:39 AM

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bubblehide · 05-09-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rhyak

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

In southern Ca, Abs are a no no. Otherwise, the last time I checked, it depended on where you were, with a limit of 2 per person, and a yearly bag limit. However, I have not checked the regs on Abs, in over 2 years, and for Abs, they seem to change on a fairly regular basis, usually becomming more and more restrictive.

You can freedive for Abs, but no scuba, not in Ca anyway.

05-09-2014, 08:11 AM	#11
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	stay on target [QUOTE=kareem korn;193527]Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat. Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups. It's a shame. But fuck it it's legal. I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong. Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid. Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics. Tell me you wont get shit for that[/

05-09-2014, 08:29 AM	#12
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	Ive said this so many times over the years but taking a thresher is a huge PITA. Ive been involved w 2. Mine was the 4th I caught and I wanted to eat one. The care involved to keep it good is extensive. You have to have the space to dress it then chill it then clean it then store it all after you get the damn thing to shore. The second I was involved w taking died head down in the mud in 300' off Laguna. It had to be winched up tail first the last 20min and it was muddy past its pecs. That one was well over 100 and was an exponential PITA. It gets harder to keep it good w everything involved in prep. I recco you have your ice and giant chest ready before you go out. Get to the beach fast and get it cool fast. Dress it then pack w ice and let it chill maybe overnight. Then sharpen your knife and get to steaking w breaks to resharpen your knife often. To me now they are a pain and a pest and Id rather spend the time treating hemorrhoids or getting a root canal. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

05-09-2014, 08:39 AM	#13
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	.. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week. Last edited by Zed; 05-09-2014 at 02:27 PM.

05-09-2014, 06:18 AM	#3
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	She looks legal! Original post was completely different.....we were talking about perfectly LEGAL harvest activities.

05-09-2014, 07:41 AM	#5
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat. Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups. It's a shame. But fuck it it's legal. I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong. Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid. Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics. Tell me you wont get shit for that