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Old 05-18-2014, 03:52 PM   #1
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I love my Outback. Takes a licking and keeps on hauling my fat arse out! I've found it to be VERY stable although for some reason I feel like it lists to the right some times. Could be my ear problem though.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:27 PM   #2
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I love it (PA)on the water, it's the haulin that can be a little difficult at times
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:49 PM   #3
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I've had both and there are differences. OB sits lower and, if you have inflexible hips like me, after a while they can bug you. Monkey butt is another thing to think about. And storage/deck space is less. It is lighter and easier to tote around though, used to put it on top of my truck by myself. PA sits higher and in a more comfortable position and I think is easier on the knees. Side saddle is harder to do. No cup holder ($3000 kayak and nowhere to put your drink?) It is a heavier kayak but have yet to really move it. It's on a trailer so I don't load or unload it, just wash it and put it away. They are both very stable but with the higher seat position the PA feels less stable but I can still stand no problem. Overall I like both. Had the OB 1st and if I never had another 'yak I would've been cool with it. Have a PA 12 now and don't see ever getting another. Hope this helps. Can't go wrong with either one.
Side note; never tipped either of them so I don't know about getting back in on the water but after reading the earlier posts I need to do this one day. That may be something you want to think about.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:08 PM   #4
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You are not putting the outback on your back and hauling it to the launch...ever!



If you felt unstable on pa...don't go to on.

The seat on the PA is worth a million bucks.


Test an outback at a shop so you know for sure.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:57 PM   #5
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If your looking to put an extra person on the kayak to fish with you, go with the PA14, with that 600 lbs capacity, you and your wife on the kayak wont feel like its weighing down the kayak when its on water the kayak still moves pretty fast. But yes its a tank to hull around if you planning to put it on your roof rack.

So at 61, I'd rather sit on a nice chair rather then having backache with restricted to movement and less ability to stand up and stretch. The PA gives you a piece of mind for stability, spending longer hours fishing on the water, and the room to carry your heart desired with fishing tackle.

Now for the Outback, A few of my buddies each have one and it's real easy to hull that thing around. Enough room for a few tackle with 4 rod holder already molded in. Your butt gets wet all the time, so never a dry ride. Each one of my buddies complain about back ache, and they range in age from 24 to 40yrs old. They all talk about upgrading to a PA.

Any hobie is a great investment, the price dont really depreciate too much so if your strap for cash, they sell quite quick.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:12 AM   #6
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One Pro I would say the OB has over the PA is due to its lighter weight, you can haul it out to more remote places. Perfect example was this weekend when a few buddies and myself went to a remote beach up in Ventura and the only access was this narrow dirt trail that was 3' wide and a 45 degree incline. It was hell getting our OBs down, could not even imagine trying that with a PA.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:24 AM   #7
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papa bears too big baby bears too small pa12 just right
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