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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: The city of Orange
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: El Toro, CA
Posts: 244
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I couldn't find what I had previously read on CA DFW's website about rabies and seals/sea loins in CA since it is buried in an archieve, but did come across this...
PUBLIC HEALTH SIGNIFICANCE OF MARINE MAMMAL DISEASES, BY C.D.BUCK & J.P.SCHRODER TAKEN FROM THE CRC HANDBOOK OF MARINE MAMMAL MEDICINE; HEALTH, DISEASE, AND REHABILITATION. “with some diseases, such as rabies, one might be tempted to dismiss the risk of contracting the disease from marine mammals as non existent; however, rabies has been documented in a wild seal. All marine mammals are capable of contracting rabies, and workers who deal with wild marine mammals must consider the risk when planning their vaccinations or seeking treatment for bite wounds.” |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Newport Beach
Posts: 149
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I am sorry guys but I feel bad for the seal after it bit me I think I gave it Rabies now he is screwed Lol.
I was going to say f it I dont need to go to the Doc but everyone was getting on my case the doctor said Sea Lions have very bad bacteria in their mouths and when bitten it could get serious. My wound was a little swollen and the doctor gave me some meds she said if it hurts or the swelling does not go down she is going to chop off my leg. JP She said I would have to come back and get some sort of shot. As of right now no swelling no paid the so I am assuming I am not going to die. |
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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#5 |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 555
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Interesting
I was fishing with my uncle in his boat out at SI. As we were entering to the boat launch area, a huge bull sea lion began following us. He was inches from the prop and my uncle kept saying, "why doesn't he eat THAT!". But no joke, when we tied up to the little dock, the thing jumped up so high to get to our bait tank, I swear I thought he was going to jump into the boat! I have never seen them do that! Getting pretty aggressive if you ask me!
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Menifee, CA
Posts: 1,475
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I had the same bull come up behind my kayak at the SI launch and checked me out. Came right up to the yak. Only had one eye.
Last Sunday at DP there were some idiots feeding a seal pup from the wall over by the dry dock. Guy actually climbed over the rail and was hand feeding the animal. I'm thinking, "just what we need" ![]()
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So long and thanks for all the fish... |
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 225
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I think we might be seeing the first of the zombie dogs! They won't stop! I see a new reality show gents....
BWE MEN ..... Fighting the dogs, waves and wind to pull spotties and the occasional butt...watch as they brave the coastal waters and win!!!
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#8 |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SAN DIEGO
Posts: 1,086
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And some guys will still hang their fish over the side in the water.
I still say that's NUTS!! |
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#9 |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 1,589
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Sorry to hear about your dog encounter. Maybe it's time to get a bit more offensive in our defense with the dogs. Feeding sea lions? Talk about "paying it forward". You're gonna get the next guy hurt. If you want to feed sea lions get your ass to seaworld. I try never to feed sea lions. When I get a bait bitten in half I keep the head in the foot well and hold off dropping another bait back until I think the dog had gone away. I never keep fish in the water, on the deck, or in the tank well. They all go down the in the hatch.
Congrats on the nice triggers too. You see them around now and then, but a nice school is a rare find. Mike |
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#10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Otay
Posts: 704
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I wouldn't hesitate to sink a gaff in a sea dog if it's to keep from them sinking teeth in me... chalk it up to paying it forward to the tax man.
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#11 |
Junior
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 22
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Poor sea lion... J/K. Good thing it didn't get a hold of your leg. That would not have been a pretty scenario. Watching the school of fish was pretty fun.
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#12 |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Table 17, Bay Park Fish Co.
Posts: 943
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Finescale Trigger are native to our neck of the woods. Not super common, but they are around. Must of run into a group of them assembling for the spring spawn...
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#13 |
Junior
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Orange County
Posts: 24
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Jonathan, that sucks to hear about the sea dog chomping your leg! I woulda been PISSSED! Glad to hear your leg hasn't fallen off. Like some of the others have replied, X2 on sinking a gaff into the dogs. Sorry Tess and I couldn't join you guys out there that day. When Peter told us about the plan, we felt it was just beyond our experience level. LOL. Nice job on the triggers! Cool looking fish.
Back to the seal subject... I wonder if pepper spray or mace would work on them? It's non lethal, safe and would prevent any accidental gaffing of your yak and body parts. Or, how bout training the dogs into thinking that taking baitfish from a boat/yak is a negative thing? Lure the seal in with a piece of baitfish and just before it takes it out of your hand give it a good whack over the top of the head with the back end of a gaff. Slingshot? Waterproof, compact, silent and plenty of ammo (sinkers/jigheads). Okay that's enough, sorry if I offended any Seal lovers. They're adorable. Jason Last edited by Jaysuuun; 05-25-2014 at 05:41 AM. |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 1,589
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Got to thinking' if you'd been bitten by a coyote, bob cat, mtn lion, badger, skunk, fox, possum, or even a squirrel it would bring a response from many officials. But seals and sea lions are sacred cow. If you get injured by a sea lion it's your fault for entering "their" environment. If a coyote bit you while you were in a public park it would be a crisis covered by every news out let. Guess we're on our own. Mike
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#15 |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The OC
Posts: 58
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County Animal Care Services will only respond to incidents that are reported to them. My guess is that this bite has not been reported to ACS. They would get psyched up for bats because rabies is all too common in bats. Psyched up for dog bites because they are so common and they have regulatory authority. Psyched up for mountain lions because they got their a$$es sued off years ago when a mountain lion tried to drag off a little girl. As a general rule, wild animals are mostly outside their purview.
If a bunch of people started reporting sea dawg bites, ACS, Harbor Patrol, state game and federal authorities would probably look into it and maybe hire a consultant to do a study or something. But without some reports of bites, it will be ignored. |
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Fishing Patriot
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,121
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They need to make sea lions along the same dfg rules as coyotes!! Open all year, no bag limit!! Sea lions are a nuisance pest, over populated and dangerous, just like coyotes.
We'd have the tax man around to thin the herds if it weren't for that Santa Monica orca pod killing the great whites, scaring the rest off.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Newport Beach
Posts: 149
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The craziest part about the trigger's I saw a school of 20 of them that's why I set up on the spot. First they were very timid and did not want to come to the kayak, I sat on the spot for a couple of hours and when the current was right they were on the chew. We caught 5 triggers withing an hour span and probably got hit about 20 times.
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