Launching........ - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ceruleandrms · 06-08-2014, 12:16 PM

For all of you out there that have done both, which beach launch is harder/more difficult/scarier/involves more prayer: LJ or County Line?

tamddo714 · 06-08-2014, 12:32 PM

involves more prayers... LOL

Dannowar · 06-08-2014, 12:33 PM

Does it really matter? People are gonna yard sale at both

ceruleandrms · 06-08-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

Does it really matter? People are gonna yard sale at both

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.

ceruleandrms · 06-08-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ceruleandrms

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.

Let me explain: I live closer to county line. I've yet to have a really bad incident launching but know its bound to happen. I hear LJ can be rough and since I live over 100 miles from there I'm asking for people's opinions. I'm not from Malibu or any of the close beach cities, I'm just someone who enjoys being on the water and tries to get out as much as possible. I usually learn by trial and error but since I would like to fish LJ sometime soon, maybe someone can let me know what to expect.

jorluivil · 06-08-2014, 01:07 PM

Its like comparing apples to tube socks

driftwood · 06-08-2014, 01:32 PM

Still not sure what your looking for

A fishing experience or BIG wave wipe out experience? Cause if your looking for big wave action you're going to be very disappointed next few week off La Jolla.

http://magicseaweed.com/Scripps-Pier...rf-Report/296/

Dannowar · 06-08-2014, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ceruleandrms

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.

La jolla. You will flip and I will collect the footage and post it on the internet.

Good luck

Iceman · 06-08-2014, 02:18 PM

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County Line/Yerba Buena Beach in Ventura is a quite exposed beach and reef break that has consistent surf and can work at any time of the year.

tube socks!

GregAndrew · 06-08-2014, 02:33 PM

If you can launch at CL when Surfline forecasts 2-3 footers, then you will almost never have any problem with LJ.

Dannowar · 06-08-2014, 02:34 PM

To answer te question. If you're 100 miles away, la jolla is pretty predictable. Launchable almost year round. Avoid short period large swell and you're good.

ceruleandrms · 06-08-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by driftwood

Still not sure what your looking for

A fishing experience or BIG wave wipe out experience? Cause if your looking for big wave action you're going to be very disappointed next few week off La Jolla.

http://magicseaweed.com/Scripps-Pier...rf-Report/296/

Looking for a new fishing experience in a new area. I can do county line but never did LJ so I'm trying to get an idea on how its gonna be.

ceruleandrms · 06-08-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

To answer te question. If you're 100 miles away, la jolla is pretty predictable. Launchable almost year round. Avoid short period large swell and you're good.

Thank you.

momo fish · 06-08-2014, 11:18 PM

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.

La jolla seems to be half as bad as county line. A better comparison would be nearby Leo Carrillo. It's a short 20 minute paddle to county and can fish spots along the way or drift back in afternoon.

I launch a few times this year from county and today may be my last for now. Predicted 2-3 footers but the short intervals was the surprise. I never took so many waves to the face than today and through deep prayers made it much to the delight of the surfers. 4 waves to the face is enough for me to stick to Leo until conditions are better.

Dannowar · 06-09-2014, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.

Oh stop being a fun hater

addicted2sp33d · 06-09-2014, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.

Every site needs at least one a-hole... otherwise the site would be anal retentive - it's a biological fact.

TCS · 06-09-2014, 07:09 AM

As stated above, the key at La Jolla is the interval. A 3 foot swell with an 8 second interaval will break chest high (chest high on a surfer, overhead on a kayaker) at the launch. A 3 foot swell with a 14 second interval and the a launch is like a lake.

This time of year its important to not just look at the forecast model because it often misses the windswell. Look at the CDIP forecast or the torrey pines bouy to see the actual interval before you drive down.

I would also suggest you go out without your fishing gear on a day that there is some surf and practice. Unless you have a PA, which is really a boat and not a kayak, you should be able to handle waist high surf pretty easily.

Charge it on the way out and keep the kayak facing directly into the waves. On the way back in try and stay on the backs of the waves. If a wave is catching up with you don't surf it. Instead, put your feet in the water and back paddle so the wave goes under you then paddle as far as you can before the next one catches up with you, then back paddle again.

Next time your shopping for a kayak, talk to Andy about which models handle surf the best so that you have more days you can fish. I like the adventure for this reason.

Dannowar · 06-09-2014, 07:12 AM

Didn't mean to come across like a dick...thought the thread was about which was scarier in a macho kind of way. All in good fun.

ceruleandrms · 06-09-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TCS

As stated above, the key at La Jolla is the interval. A 3 foot swell with an 8 second interaval will break chest high (chest high on a surfer, overhead on a kayaker) at the launch. A 3 foot swell with a 14 second interval and the a launch is like a lake.

This time of year its important to not just look at the forecast model because it often misses the windswell. Look at the CDIP forecast or the torrey pines bouy to see the actual interval before you drive down.

I would also suggest you go out without your fishing gear on a day that there is some surf and practice. Unless you have a PA, which is really a boat and not a kayak, you should be able to handle waist high surf pretty easily.

Charge it on the way out and keep the kayak facing directly into the waves. On the way back in try and stay on the backs of the waves. If a wave is catching up with you don't surf it. Instead, put your feet in the water and back paddle so the wave goes under you then paddle as far as you can before the next one catches up with you, then back paddle again.

Next time your shopping for a kayak, talk to Andy about which models handle surf the best so that you have more days you can fish. I like the adventure for this reason.

Thank you for the good advice. Appreciate it very much

addicted2sp33d · 06-09-2014, 11:15 AM

Get out and try it - there will always be days where La Jolla is not-so-bueno for noobs, and there are other days when County Line is not-so-bueno for noobs.

The trick is not to figure out which beach is better for noobs... the trick is to get some experience and not be a noob.

Just make sure everything is stored below decks and everything is leashed.

If you're worried about losing stuff, then get out there and practice without any gear. It'll be worth it.

06-08-2014, 12:16 PM	#1
ceruleandrms Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: OC Posts: 80	Launching........ For all of you out there that have done both, which beach launch is harder/more difficult/scarier/involves more prayer: LJ or County Line?

06-08-2014, 12:33 PM	#3
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Does it really matter? People are gonna yard sale at both __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

06-08-2014, 01:07 PM	#6
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Its like comparing apples to tube socks __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

06-08-2014, 02:34 PM	#11
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	To answer te question. If you're 100 miles away, la jolla is pretty predictable. Launchable almost year round. Avoid short period large swell and you're good. __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

06-09-2014, 07:09 AM	#17
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	As stated above, the key at La Jolla is the interval. A 3 foot swell with an 8 second interaval will break chest high (chest high on a surfer, overhead on a kayaker) at the launch. A 3 foot swell with a 14 second interval and the a launch is like a lake. This time of year its important to not just look at the forecast model because it often misses the windswell. Look at the CDIP forecast or the torrey pines bouy to see the actual interval before you drive down. I would also suggest you go out without your fishing gear on a day that there is some surf and practice. Unless you have a PA, which is really a boat and not a kayak, you should be able to handle waist high surf pretty easily. Charge it on the way out and keep the kayak facing directly into the waves. On the way back in try and stay on the backs of the waves. If a wave is catching up with you don't surf it. Instead, put your feet in the water and back paddle so the wave goes under you then paddle as far as you can before the next one catches up with you, then back paddle again. Next time your shopping for a kayak, talk to Andy about which models handle surf the best so that you have more days you can fish. I like the adventure for this reason. Last edited by TCS; 06-09-2014 at 07:48 AM.

06-08-2014, 12:32 PM	#2
tamddo714 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 273	involves more prayers... LOL

06-08-2014, 01:32 PM	#7
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Still not sure what your looking for A fishing experience or BIG wave wipe out experience? Cause if your looking for big wave action you're going to be very disappointed next few week off La Jolla. http://magicseaweed.com/Scripps-Pier...rf-Report/296/

06-08-2014, 02:33 PM	#10
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	If you can launch at CL when Surfline forecasts 2-3 footers, then you will almost never have any problem with LJ.

06-08-2014, 11:18 PM	#14
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response. La jolla seems to be half as bad as county line. A better comparison would be nearby Leo Carrillo. It's a short 20 minute paddle to county and can fish spots along the way or drift back in afternoon. I launch a few times this year from county and today may be my last for now. Predicted 2-3 footers but the short intervals was the surprise. I never took so many waves to the face than today and through deep prayers made it much to the delight of the surfers. 4 waves to the face is enough for me to stick to Leo until conditions are better.

06-09-2014, 07:12 AM	#18
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Didn't mean to come across like a dick...thought the thread was about which was scarier in a macho kind of way. All in good fun. __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

06-09-2014, 11:15 AM	#20
addicted2sp33d Here fishy fishy fishy... Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 774	Get out and try it - there will always be days where La Jolla is not-so-bueno for noobs, and there are other days when County Line is not-so-bueno for noobs. The trick is not to figure out which beach is better for noobs... the trick is to get some experience and not be a noob. Just make sure everything is stored below decks and everything is leashed. If you're worried about losing stuff, then get out there and practice without any gear. It'll be worth it.