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Old 07-24-2014, 06:40 PM   #1
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I tend to run a very long leader so it the knot passes through my guides. Uni to uni was what i used to tie until I learned how to tie an alberto knot (or at least thats what I was told its called). Low profile and simple enough. Allows me to use my long leaders and not worry about getting hung up or anything. Good luck on your trip!
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:23 PM   #2
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Awesome!

Sooooo much great info. I need to start practicing my knots! Keep the info coming gents. I love it and I am learning lots! I am learning that a lot of the stuff I already do is a lot what you all are suggesting. I like the idea of not using the green braid and I will look for white. I was thinking I would just put a whole 25 yard spool of flouro on top of my braid (so I don't have to keep tying splicing knots?) but most of you are suggesting short top shots.... hmmm. I like that someone suggested not overlooking the good ole mustad hook. Last year I went out on an overnighter on the Penetrator. Capt Clay called the owners and gamakatsu's "gucci" hooks and he used only mustad! I do see the benefit of good hooks though. A two speed reel huh? I was thinking about that but $$$! How much would one of those set me back?

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Old 07-24-2014, 08:36 PM   #3
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Sooooo much great info. I need to start practicing my knots! Keep the info coming gents. I love it and I am learning lots! I am learning that a lot of the stuff I already do is a lot what you all are suggesting. I like the idea of not using the green braid and I will look for white. I was thinking I would just put a whole 25 yard spool of flouro on top of my braid (so I don't have to keep tying splicing knots?) but most of you are suggesting short top shots.... hmmm. I like that someone suggested not overlooking the good ole mustad hook. Last year I went out on an overnighter on the Penetrator. Capt Clay called the owners and gamakatsu's "gucci" hooks and he used only mustad! I do see the benefit of good hooks though. A two speed reel huh? I was thinking about that but $$$! How much would one of those set me back?

Thanks again,

Janine
If you're lucky you might still be able to find a Shimano TLD 20II 2-speed for about $200 (if you're using Mono, not recommended for braid). I picked one up for just over that a few months back. If you have more $ (MXJ Raptor series if using braid $450+) look for an AVET.

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Old 07-25-2014, 08:08 AM   #4
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Sooooo much great info. I need to start practicing my knots! Keep the info coming gents. I love it and I am learning lots! I am learning that a lot of the stuff I already do is a lot what you all are suggesting. I like the idea of not using the green braid and I will look for white. I was thinking I would just put a whole 25 yard spool of flouro on top of my braid (so I don't have to keep tying splicing knots?) but most of you are suggesting short top shots.... hmmm. I like that someone suggested not overlooking the good ole mustad hook. Last year I went out on an overnighter on the Penetrator. Capt Clay called the owners and gamakatsu's "gucci" hooks and he used only mustad! I do see the benefit of good hooks though. A two speed reel huh? I was thinking about that but $$$! How much would one of those set me back?

Thanks again,

Janine

I keep the top-shot to 4-5 feet for several reasons. The uni to uni knot doesn't go through the guides, and I have less weight from the line which allows the bait to swim away faster. Usually abrasion occurs within six inches from the hook, so I can retie my Mustad Big Game hook multiple times. The only time a long top-shot is a must is when the seas are choppy and the boat is heaving up and down a lot. The stretch afforded by the mono fluorocarbon combo prevents pulled hooks and broken lines.
Most long range boats have 2 speed reels at your disposal for next to nothing or no cost. When you shell out several thousand dollars they aren't going to nickel and dime you, they want you as a happy return customer. Have a 2-speed available to use if you're in an area where the 60# plus tuna start showing up. Good luck out there.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:26 PM   #5
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Strongest, smallest braid to flouro knot...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4R3_znSAPz8
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Old 07-24-2014, 08:24 PM   #6
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Strongest, smallest braid to flouro knot...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4R3_znSAPz8
thats pretty cool! I'll try it.

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[QUOTE=janines.fishtales@cox.net;201291]thats pretty cool! I'll try it.

tks

I have been using this knot for a couple years now. From 30-65# spectra with 15-40# fluoro leader.
It's great..
I generally use either a Palomar or Uni knot from leader to hook or lure.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:30 AM   #8
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Check with the boats in the area. Some will have rigs you can rent for the 80-100 lb. line and will do a topshot for you on your reels. They will have their recommendations as to what they find works the best overall.

With braid to mono the strongest knots have been the Albright and the Slim Beauty so you can decide which you find easier to tie. With all these knots it is important to cinch the knot with the line wet or you risk weakening the knot and turning 65 lb test line into 30 lb test.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:16 PM   #9
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Check with the boats in the area. Some will have rigs you can rent for the 80-100 lb. line and will do a topshot for you on your reels. They will have their recommendations as to what they find works the best overall.

With braid to mono the strongest knots have been the Albright and the Slim Beauty so you can decide which you find easier to tie. With all these knots it is important to cinch the knot with the line wet or you risk weakening the knot and turning 65 lb test line into 30 lb test.
Cool. Thank you!

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Old 07-28-2014, 04:03 PM   #10
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Albright. Palomar and Improved clinch (4 twists on 25# or less 5 twists on 30# and up) depending on the application.
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