Allbright knot or Spro swivel - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

lowprofile · 09-06-2014, 02:59 AM

alberto or "Improved Albright". I use it on all my setups and hasn't failed. even use it (with 4-5wraps) on 50lb mono to 150lb mono connection for shock leaders. its an improvement over the unt - overhand or Uni to Unti connection for shock leaders.

the reason long range and cattle boats don't like braid is because braid will cut people off. its like one of those survival hand saws and slices through the stationary lines like butter. after losing a few rigs to it I've actually not let people fish with me on the beach if they were spooled with braid. lol.

MissileTM · 09-06-2014, 07:49 AM

20' floro leader with a John Collins knot or Tony Pena knot. Both are small, very strong and easy to tie! The Collins knot is my new favorite

Zfish03 · 09-06-2014, 03:31 PM

Use what ever YOU'RE comfortable with. You will most likely be changing out set ups and retying hooks. Can you confidently and quickly tie an albright in the middle of a hot tuna bite? The spro will fit through the guides just as well as the albright, and honestly all you need is 5-6 feet of fluro. Plus you're about 8-10 feet above the water anyhow. Personally, I like the ease of switching to different # fluro if I have to. As far as strength of the spro...well I landed a 70-80+lb bluefin on a 50lb rated spro. So yes they will hold up. Good luck!

Widgeon · 09-06-2014, 06:28 PM

Personally, I would forego a spro and just tie a knot.
If you have time before the trip, pick a good knot and practice it until you have it down and are confident in its strength.

janines.fishtales@cox.net · 09-07-2014, 01:51 PM

You can find it on Utube. I am going out on a 6 day in a couple of weeks. I have been practicing the RP for braid to either fluoro or mono. EZ and it works. I caught a couple smallish tuna on it a couple weeks ago, so I have confidence in it. Like someone said, can you tie in the middle of a hot bite and do you have confidence in it?

Janine

oneyedeer · 09-07-2014, 08:26 PM

Improved albright it's almost the same but you do wrap up and the wrap down at least 5 times......the regualar one you only wrap down. I had way too many slips on the regular albright

BillzBaitz · 09-08-2014, 08:23 PM

Alberto and 6'-8' of 20# or 25# flouro..

I have been on a couple of these trips this year and that has been the go to if you are fishing braid. If you are fishing mono they dont seem to mind the straight 20# mono.. Most of the bait is chovy so we have been using a size 4 hook sometimes even a size 6. Guys are going to tel you thats too small... or oh you can use a size 1 or 1/0 and you know what you can... But you wont get bit as much as the guy using the smaller hooks.. Just keep in mind that you cant horse them in when you use a smaller hook.. I went 9 for 11, capt went 12 for 13, and a buddy went 10 for 10.. all using the small hooks. people asked us what we were using and the gib difference was the smaller hook..

If you happen to get on a boat that has sardines then I would bump it up to a size 1 or 1/0..

Dont forget rubber core sinkers.. And dont be affraid to fish the mega bait on the slide or if the fish are being marked 100-150' down.. I actually marked off 100 and 150 feet with a sparpie on my braid(white power pro #65) this way I could judge where my jig was in the water column.

09-06-2014, 02:59 AM	#1
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	alberto or "Improved Albright". I use it on all my setups and hasn't failed. even use it (with 4-5wraps) on 50lb mono to 150lb mono connection for shock leaders. its an improvement over the unt - overhand or Uni to Unti connection for shock leaders. the reason long range and cattle boats don't like braid is because braid will cut people off. its like one of those survival hand saws and slices through the stationary lines like butter. after losing a few rigs to it I've actually not let people fish with me on the beach if they were spooled with braid. lol. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

09-07-2014, 01:51 PM	#5
janines.fishtales@cox.net Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 555	Look up the RP knot You can find it on Utube. I am going out on a 6 day in a couple of weeks. I have been practicing the RP for braid to either fluoro or mono. EZ and it works. I caught a couple smallish tuna on it a couple weeks ago, so I have confidence in it. Like someone said, can you tie in the middle of a hot bite and do you have confidence in it? Janine __________________ Fishtales

09-06-2014, 07:49 AM	#2
MissileTM Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 90	20' floro leader with a John Collins knot or Tony Pena knot. Both are small, very strong and easy to tie! The Collins knot is my new favorite

09-06-2014, 03:31 PM	#3
Zfish03 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oceanside Posts: 197	Use what ever YOU'RE comfortable with. You will most likely be changing out set ups and retying hooks. Can you confidently and quickly tie an albright in the middle of a hot tuna bite? The spro will fit through the guides just as well as the albright, and honestly all you need is 5-6 feet of fluro. Plus you're about 8-10 feet above the water anyhow. Personally, I like the ease of switching to different # fluro if I have to. As far as strength of the spro...well I landed a 70-80+lb bluefin on a 50lb rated spro. So yes they will hold up. Good luck!

09-06-2014, 06:28 PM	#4
Widgeon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Clairemont Posts: 175	Personally, I would forego a spro and just tie a knot. If you have time before the trip, pick a good knot and practice it until you have it down and are confident in its strength.

09-07-2014, 08:26 PM	#6
oneyedeer Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, ca Posts: 684	Improved albright it's almost the same but you do wrap up and the wrap down at least 5 times......the regualar one you only wrap down. I had way too many slips on the regular albright

09-08-2014, 08:23 PM	#7
BillzBaitz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Redlands Posts: 118	Alberto and 6'-8' of 20# or 25# flouro.. I have been on a couple of these trips this year and that has been the go to if you are fishing braid. If you are fishing mono they dont seem to mind the straight 20# mono.. Most of the bait is chovy so we have been using a size 4 hook sometimes even a size 6. Guys are going to tel you thats too small... or oh you can use a size 1 or 1/0 and you know what you can... But you wont get bit as much as the guy using the smaller hooks.. Just keep in mind that you cant horse them in when you use a smaller hook.. I went 9 for 11, capt went 12 for 13, and a buddy went 10 for 10.. all using the small hooks. people asked us what we were using and the gib difference was the smaller hook.. If you happen to get on a boat that has sardines then I would bump it up to a size 1 or 1/0.. Dont forget rubber core sinkers.. And dont be affraid to fish the mega bait on the slide or if the fish are being marked 100-150' down.. I actually marked off 100 and 150 feet with a sparpie on my braid(white power pro #65) this way I could judge where my jig was in the water column.