Dropper loop problems?

[dmrides]

Do you push the loop through the eye and over the hook? Or tie the hook to the dropper loop?

When I do a dropper loop, I use a 4 turn surgeons knot for the loop and a palomar to tie the hook on. Haven't had one break off on a fish. As mentioned before, a 3 way swivel is also a great way to avoid most dropper loop problems.

[skrilla]

Lost too many great battles on the dropper loop. Now I use the 3 way swivel rig for drifting and a spider hitch for vertical presentations.

[Dave k]

Most people use the term "dropper loop" referring to the style of rig, but not the knot itself. The dropper loop knot has been proven to have a very low breaking strength. But based on where it's breaking, I think your knot from the loop to the hook might be an issue as well.

Switch your knot a to a spider hitch knot, or use a 3 way swivel rig like mentioned above. If you use the spider hitch, cut the loop and run one end to your hook, and one to the weight so you're not running a double like to the hook.

[Raskal311]

Did you knot or just loop the hook? I broke off 5 big yellows on a trip before someone told me I needed to knot it.

[T-Rex]

Originally Posted by dmrides

Do you push the loop through the eye and over the hook? Or tie the hook to the dropper loop?

When I do a dropper loop, I use a 4 turn surgeons knot for the loop and a palomar to tie the hook on. Haven't had one break off on a fish. As mentioned before, a 3 way swivel is also a great way to avoid most dropper loop problems.

Ditto. Using a palomar to tie the hook on makes for a better connection -- if one strand gets a nick and breaks the other will hold fast. That being said, I've also started using 3-way swivels instead of a dropper loop setup.

[Cadillyak]

Fiskadoro, that is good stuff!

[easyday]

I've had good luck with these.


Easier than dealing with a 3 way

[AirborneYak]

Originally Posted by easyday

I've had good luck with these.


Easier than dealing with a 3 way

What is that called and where can you get it?

[easyday]

Pretty much every tackle store has them I get mine at hogans in dana point. They have the braid safe ones. Otherwise the braid will eventually chew through the other ones.

These are the exact ones I use and I love them.
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...type%3Dproduct



I basically rig them up just like a Carolina rig, or you can use a swivel and it acts just like a 3 way but with less tangles. Or take the clip off and then it basically works exactly the same as the tubing trick.

[surfisher]

As always, thanks for the advice everyone! But damn, found my problem. I was just looping the hook instead of tying on the hook. The youtube video's don't tell you that part haha. It very well may have been a leopard shark, the water was too dirty for me too see what it was but it was definitely fun to pull on.

Fiskadoro I really like that concept! May have to give it a go!

Now that I think about it, anyone using a reverse dropper loop setup?

[FlyFishinYakr]

Originally Posted by easyday

Pretty much every tackle store has them I get mine at hogans in dana point. They have the braid safe ones. Otherwise the braid will eventually chew through the other ones.

These are the exact ones I use and I love them.
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...type%3Dproduct



I basically rig them up just like a Carolina rig, or you can use a swivel and it acts just like a 3 way but with less tangles. Or take the clip off and then it basically works exactly the same as the tubing trick.

These things are hard to find up here in no-mans land. I ordered bulk from eBay search Fishing Sliders (sorry can't find the link) with or without the snap.
I ordered the sliders only, then bought snaps with a lighter (40#) breakaway # test. I opted for losing a 3 oz. sinker over a 30#+ !
FFY