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Old 08-01-2015, 09:27 AM   #1
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2012 - PA 12 introduced with the vantage seat and Lowrance ready, PA 14 still has the older seat/center hatch

2013 - PA 12/PA 14 both have vantage seats, Lowrance ready, and flat deck center hatch

2014 - Same stuff with the addition of rudder tension control

2015 - Addition of Skeg, H-rail, and Glide Technology Mirage Drive

Probably missed a few minor additions and subtractions, but those are the major ticket items.
Thanks flemdogg that's exactly what I was looking for

The two features I really like on the 15 are the skegg and the h-rail system. But with all the add ons it will be close to a $4k yak when I'm done!

I already had Andy do the mirage upgrade on my drive. I just don't know if it would fit on the newer PA's. I have the first gen original drive that came with the Hank Parker edition so I don't think it would fit.

I believe all PA's have the ability to control the rudder from either side. Is that correct? That is a huge plus. Having to switch hands with the rod to use my left hand to make a minor correction while I'm fishing is a pain. So being able to control the rudder with my right hand and continue fishing will be a welcome change.
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Old 08-01-2015, 12:17 PM   #2
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I believe all PA's have the ability to control the rudder from either side. Is that correct?
I have the 2014 PA14, and yeah, it has ruddar control on both sides...but had to buy a larger steering lever for the right control station. The 2014 version has a more comfortable vantage chair than the previous models.
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Old 08-01-2015, 01:32 PM   #3
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Old 08-01-2015, 02:30 PM   #4
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I have the 2014 PA14, and yeah, it has ruddar control on both sides...but had to buy a larger steering lever for the right control station. The 2014 version has a more comfortable vantage chair than the previous models.
I just watched a hobie video and it showed both the little stubby secondary steering nub and the larger primary one. They are interchangeable and can be placed on either side. Since I hold my pole in my left I will put the primary on the right.

I wish this was a feature on all hobies
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Old 08-01-2015, 04:01 PM   #5
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I have another question. What length of rod can fit in the rod holders that run along the side of the kayak on the 12 and the 14? I can't seem to find that info on the hobie site. It just says the 12 holds 4 and the 14 holds 6. But to it doesn't give lengths.
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:43 PM   #7
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I have another question. What length of rod can fit in the rod holders that run along the side of the kayak on the 12 and the 14? I can't seem to find that info on the hobie site. It just says the 12 holds 4 and the 14 holds 6. But to it doesn't give lengths.
The PA14 comfortably holds rods up to 8ft, you can go longer, but they start sticking out behind the seat, which might interfere with other stuff on your kayak.

Another thing to consider is that the rod holder tubes are hard on the rod guides. Not uncommon to bend and knock the inner rings out of ceramic type guides. Fortunately, I wrap my own rods... have started using solid ring guides that have a center post to avoid knocking the rings off.
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