Skin cancer - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

King Saba · 08-30-2015, 12:00 PM

The only proven sunscreens that work are physical block types. And, yes those are the thick white pasty types that leave you looking like a ghost. I use ones that have titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or a combo of both. For it to work you have reapply often, about every 1.5hrs. I've been using Banana boat. Hope this helps.

While we're still on the topic, does anyone have any reccomendations for boots or socks that have a high SPF rating? I'm not blessed with $$$ so something in the $30 range or less would be awesome. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Su...boat+sunscreen

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Na...kids+sunscreen

I've been using both and the yellow bottle one seems to work better. It's much thicker, but it does work. The green bottle one doesn't leave a thick pasty feeling, but I've had a few trips where it didn't work quite as well.

Amish Ed · 08-30-2015, 06:42 PM

For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.

Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.

Jimmyz123 · 08-30-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.

Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.

We just have to remember not to be lazy when it comes to putting on sunscreen. I know most of those spray on versions are not that the wonderful, but I have one now that actually works really well.

I too have avoided the buffs just because I don't like covering my face unless it's like freezing out. I know some would say I should do so regularly I just don't like to.

Amish Ed · 08-30-2015, 07:46 PM

Which sunscreen jimmy?

Jimmyz123 · 09-01-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Which sunscreen jimmy?

I'll get the name for you when I get home from work. In my surfing days my go to sunscreen was Aloegator. It was the only one that stayed for while I was in the water and out on my face. I was pretty well covered up on the arms and legs with the wetsuit I had.

Sadly the best sunscreens are the ones that leave you looking casper like, but it's worth it.

bolocop · 09-01-2015, 01:21 PM

Guys,
Know the difference between sunscreen and sunblock. Yes, there's a difference.

Sunscreen is made up of chemicals that absorb the sun's damaging rays and turn into free radicals. Free radicals are dangerous and require anti-oxidants to neutralize. These free radicals sit in your skin where your sunscreen has absorbed it. The UVA protection is questionable for sunscreens.

Sunblock is clothing or cream made up of titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. These metals prevent the sun from reaching your skin, so does the clothing. The problem is that no one likes the white lifeguard nose and the titanium and zinc are micronized, but then can enter the bloodstream.

I use a face buff, long sleeved shirt and a product call Blue Lizard. It has both titanium and zinc. It goes on thick so I don't want it on my face, but legs is ok, but takes some scrubbing in the shower to get it off.

The choice is yours...

YakDout · 08-30-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.

Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.

The buffs I have been using actually cool me down, ALOT. I fish a lot in baja and the right breathable buff makes a world of difference with the heat. Just kind of hard to drink beer.

Johnp · 08-30-2015, 07:27 PM

Buffs from the buff brand have a cool max feature. They can get a little steamy from your breath though, which can also fog your glasses. An anti fog helps though. I do find myself pulling it down past my mouth at times, but ears are always covered. I also prefer the buuf over the top of my head and the hat over that, which seems wrong, but KS more comfortable for me. Also wear as a head covering under my helmet when mountain biking, absolutely solved the problem of sweat in the eyes and glasses, and is comfortable as well. Just remember to wash them every now and again

PapaDave · 09-01-2015, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by King Saba

The only proven sunscreens that work are physical block types. And, yes those are the thick white pasty types that leave you looking like a ghost. I use ones that have titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or a combo of both. For it to work you have reapply often, about every 1.5hrs. I've been using Banana boat. Hope this helps.

While we're still on the topic, does anyone have any reccomendations for boots or socks that have a high SPF rating? I'm not blessed with $$$ so something in the $30 range or less would be awesome. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Su...boat+sunscreen

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Na...kids+sunscreen

I've been using both and the yellow bottle one seems to work better. It's much thicker, but it does work. The green bottle one doesn't leave a thick pasty feeling, but I've had a few trips where it didn't work quite as well.

Right brand, but from personal experience the two you show won't last very long on the water. I always look for the ones that don't have the 80 minute limitation...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o05_s00

PescadorPete · 09-01-2015, 08:04 AM

I've had a few rounds of Mohs surgery, fixing issues that came about because I didn't wear much sunscreen in my youth. The worst one was the top of the ear but luckily plastic surgery restored it.

I use Sol Sunguard BlueWater sunscreen. It is a mechanical block. It is sticky so it doesn't run when you sweat. It's actually hard to shower off at the end of the day. I also carry a tin of Headhunter War Paint and use it throughout the day on my nose, lips and ears.

I always cover up, light weight SPF clothing in the summer and waders/jacket in the winter.

King Saba · 09-05-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

Right brand, but from personal experience the two you show won't last very long on the water. I always look for the ones that don't have the 80 minute limitation...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o05_s00

I've used that as well. It does apply well and doesn't feel thick and pasty, but it doesn't seem to prevent burns as well for me. It's that or maybe I'm usually just too flushed after a day out.

08-30-2015, 06:42 PM	#2
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much. Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

08-30-2015, 07:46 PM	#4
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Which sunscreen jimmy? __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

08-30-2015, 07:27 PM	#8
Johnp Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106	Buffs from the buff brand have a cool max feature. They can get a little steamy from your breath though, which can also fog your glasses. An anti fog helps though. I do find myself pulling it down past my mouth at times, but ears are always covered. I also prefer the buuf over the top of my head and the hat over that, which seems wrong, but KS more comfortable for me. Also wear as a head covering under my helmet when mountain biking, absolutely solved the problem of sweat in the eyes and glasses, and is comfortable as well. Just remember to wash them every now and again __________________ JohnnyTheHook

08-30-2015, 12:00 PM	#1
King Saba Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SGV Posts: 849	The only proven sunscreens that work are physical block types. And, yes those are the thick white pasty types that leave you looking like a ghost. I use ones that have titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or a combo of both. For it to work you have reapply often, about every 1.5hrs. I've been using Banana boat. Hope this helps. While we're still on the topic, does anyone have any reccomendations for boots or socks that have a high SPF rating? I'm not blessed with $$$ so something in the $30 range or less would be awesome. Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Su...boat+sunscreen http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Na...kids+sunscreen I've been using both and the yellow bottle one seems to work better. It's much thicker, but it does work. The green bottle one doesn't leave a thick pasty feeling, but I've had a few trips where it didn't work quite as well.

09-01-2015, 01:21 PM	#6
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	Guys, Know the difference between sunscreen and sunblock. Yes, there's a difference. Sunscreen is made up of chemicals that absorb the sun's damaging rays and turn into free radicals. Free radicals are dangerous and require anti-oxidants to neutralize. These free radicals sit in your skin where your sunscreen has absorbed it. The UVA protection is questionable for sunscreens. Sunblock is clothing or cream made up of titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. These metals prevent the sun from reaching your skin, so does the clothing. The problem is that no one likes the white lifeguard nose and the titanium and zinc are micronized, but then can enter the bloodstream. I use a face buff, long sleeved shirt and a product call Blue Lizard. It has both titanium and zinc. It goes on thick so I don't want it on my face, but legs is ok, but takes some scrubbing in the shower to get it off. The choice is yours...

09-01-2015, 08:04 AM	#10
PescadorPete Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 261	I've had a few rounds of Mohs surgery, fixing issues that came about because I didn't wear much sunscreen in my youth. The worst one was the top of the ear but luckily plastic surgery restored it. I use Sol Sunguard BlueWater sunscreen. It is a mechanical block. It is sticky so it doesn't run when you sweat. It's actually hard to shower off at the end of the day. I also carry a tin of Headhunter War Paint and use it throughout the day on my nose, lips and ears. I always cover up, light weight SPF clothing in the summer and waders/jacket in the winter.