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Old 11-04-2015, 03:45 PM   #1
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Kayaker rescue La Jolla

The worst weather and condition I have ever been out in was in LJ (right John & Jemie!!) and the best condition I have ever been out in has been LJ... That should should tell you a lot about LJ and how conditions can change..

That being said, I don't understand why take the risk but I'm sure they had their reasons.. Heck even the rental shops didn't let people out which says a lot..
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:11 PM   #2
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I rescued two guys and did not make the news
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:38 PM   #3
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Apparently, they are safe. That's the important part.

In the meantime, it's a good lesson for all of us.

Live and learn.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:41 PM   #4
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I looked at the cam today and saw whitecaps but I didn't see anyone launch[I[/I], the surf was pretty rough also. Didn't look like a good day to be out in any small craft.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:22 PM   #5
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Prob heard the yellowtail tuna were running.........
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Old 11-04-2015, 07:00 PM   #6
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I wonder if the outcome would be different if they pacticed underwater rock carrying.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:05 PM   #7
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Happy everyone is safe

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I wonder if the outcome would be different if they pacticed underwater rock carrying.
If this had happened on Pacific Warriors someone would of said to get the "F" out of here this is my spot - Now that's a show for PW..
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:23 PM   #8
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I looked at the cam today and saw whitecaps but I didn't see anyone launch[I[/I], the surf was pretty rough also. Didn't look like a good day to be out in any small craft.
It was insanely windy today. Today was supposed to be my first LJ trip, but got to the launch and NOPED out. Not worth the risk one bit.
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:44 PM   #9
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Stuck- check out the webcam before you even start loading up and then check wX and cam again before you head out. It'll save some headaches.

Also, wanna hit LJ some time next week?
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:36 AM   #10
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Stuck- check out the webcam before you even start loading up and then check wX and cam again before you head out. It'll save some headaches.

Also, wanna hit LJ some time next week?
Definitely will! I (stupidly) only checked one weather website and it said 5-10mph winds, which I'm used to handling at Dana. Lesson learned.

Weather permitting- I'll try LJ again on Tuesday. It's my only free day next week.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:55 PM   #11
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I rescued two guys and did not make the news


oh and to make the bashing even on all ends.....





we know bro, you've told us multiple times




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Old 11-05-2015, 06:55 AM   #12
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Dannyman,

Can I just buy you a toy plastic kayak that you can hang on your rear view mirror?

That way, you can still claim...and jump into these threads and bitch slap others whether deserved or not. We're going to miss you...

Or wait...are you going to one of those boaters who just have to post their catches on a kayak website???haha hahahahahaha!!!!!!!

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Old 11-05-2015, 07:15 AM   #13
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All the flame throwing aside....(fun to watch; slow day)...

The only time I've ever flipped on open water was LJ with a nasty swell and wind going the other way... I had a friend right next to me that time and all was well.

Now I have a radio on my PFD, backup GPS and I carry 12g flares. My PA 14 has a hull full of pool noodles to fill up the empty space. I have USCG and SD Lifeguard dispatch on my phone too...

A mile may not seem that long when you're using a mirage drive, or when you are a skilled surfer, in shape and in a wet suit...but I would have a really hard time battling wave, wind and even a .5 knt current with no fins, a PDF and maybe some clothing. Chances of me swimming back in from a mile off the point in those conditions...not good.

I'd make the call early, before I was totally exhausted. 'Cause I love my life, my wife and my kids wayyyyy more than my pride!
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:44 AM   #14
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The worst weather and condition I have ever been out in was in LJ (right John & Jemie!!) and the best condition I have ever been out in has been LJ... That should should tell you a lot about LJ and how conditions can change..

That being said, I don't understand why take the risk but I'm sure they had their reasons.. Heck even the rental shops didn't let people out which says a lot..
Conditions can change from one minute to the next out there. They probably read the reports and thought they would be safe if they stayed close.

Good thing they were prepared.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:34 AM   #15
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Conditions can change from one minute to the next out there. They probably read the reports and thought they would be safe if they stayed close.

Good thing they were prepared.
All the shit slinging aside.

yes conditions can change quickly on the ocean, though not nearly as bad in LJ as many other places I have been.

The fact is there was a small craft warning issued two days before to go through Wednesday. Last I checked a kayak is a small craft.

I just have to say a large percentage of guys who kayak fish in LJ do not have the skill, experience or conditioning to deal with those kinds of conditions. Not saying all but we get a lot of new guys out there that can handle the day to day but when things go south it all goes to hell.

We had something similar happen several years ago. There was a wide open YT bite on one day, so the next day tons of guys showed up to fish. At 4:30 am the wind was already blowing pretty good. I was with my kids, we along with several other friends decided that was not the day to go out. A bunch of other much tougher guys with YT fever all headed out despite the conditions.
Of course later that day on the news was the report that TWELVE guys had to be rescued by the lifeguards boats because they couldn't get back in.

As I mentioned before, there is always another day to go out.
Know your abilities, know the predicted weather, and never underestimate the power of the ocean. We have too many great days out there to risk it on a shitty day.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:17 AM   #16
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I agree as sometimes reports can be iffy so you play it safe and stay close but the reports all had small craft advisory plus heavy winds..

I can understand if conditions change if weather was borderline but it wasn't and that was my concern with the kayaker that had to be rescued. It was a ways of resources and I'm pretty sure even the coastguard was pissed they even had to go out given they should not have been.. I wish they could slap some guys upside the head for bonehead decisions.. 😂

FYI, speaking of rescues where is Jemie??? We need a first hand account..

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Conditions can change from one minute to the next out there. They probably read the reports and thought they would be safe if they stayed close.



Good thing they were prepared.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:33 AM   #17
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I agree as sometimes reports can be iffy so you play it safe and stay close but the reports all had small craft advisory plus heavy winds..

I can understand if conditions change if weather was borderline but it wasn't and that was my concern with the kayaker that had to be rescued. It was a ways of resources and I'm pretty sure even the coastguard was pissed they even had to go out given they should not have been.. I wish they could slap some guys upside the head for bonehead decisions.. 😂

FYI, speaking of rescues where is Jemie??? We need a first hand account..
Jamie bought a boat ....
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