Share Your Innovations - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ctfphoto · 02-07-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck D

No problem CTF. No, I don't think I will get a sail for the outback since I am lucky enough to have an island adventure. I am not sure that I would be too impressed with a sail on the outback, it would be too much clutter for me in that vessel. I am sure it would work to get you out longer range tho...

I figured as much as you do have the island. Outback sail probably way to slow for you

After seeing you on your island looking for tuna, you really got me thinking. I have "Island Fever" now. Most likely wanting a tandem. My buddy swears he is buying one so I get to go along for the ride. I need to figure out how to talk the wife into getting one for this summer.

And I second you about buying from Andy, he is the go to guy.

EastLosYaker · 02-09-2016, 07:37 AM

Damn Chuck, you store the new outback in the living room? Talk about tlc.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-07-2016, 12:29 PM

Compact size floating sabiki hook removers from wine corks and coat hanger wire.

There's a small "L" bend at the butt end and a dab of epoxy on the wire at both ends of the cork. Small enough to conveniently stow in my Outback tackle bucket. Long enough to be comfortable in the hand.

jorluivil · 03-07-2016, 12:38 PM

Great idea but you should have made the tag end of the loop longer. Because the tag end of the loop is small the sabiki line will slide off of the loop when you try to shake the bait off.

Other than that it looks pretty cool.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-07-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Great idea but you should have made the tag end of the loop longer. Because the tag end of the loop is small the sabiki line will slide off of the loop when you try to shake the bait off.

Other than that it looks pretty cool.

Good point. I have not tried these yet. I will re-bend one and report back. Thanks.

Is the cork hook supposed to engage the sabiki line, or the sabiki hook?

My purpose is for making bait with mackerel, etc., ... not catch & release, and not bigger fish.

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I think you might be suggesting this?

... not this:

But seriously, I get as much pleasure from drinking the wine as I do making something out of the corks

FullFlavorPike · 03-07-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

Compact size floating sabiki hook removers from wine corks and coat hanger wire.

So, how would these actually work? If you don't mind a somewhat painstaking description...I can't imagine it, try as as I might.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-07-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike

So, how would these actually work? If you don't mind a somewhat painstaking description...I can't imagine it, try as as I might.

Since I am a relative noob, I am extrapolating information and fiddling at my work bench. It's better for jorluivil or one of the other pros to answer.

There are a few different kinds of de-hooking tools. My purpose is when I bring up a cluster of mackerels, getting them into the bait tank easily with as little damage or trauma as possible, while avoiding re-snagging other prickly sabiki hooks flapping around in the melee.

The purpose of this kind of de-hooking tool is when you pull the cork hook the opposite direction of the sabiki hook, it turns the point of the sabiki hook downward as you lift, and the fish falls off by it's own weight. It's allegedly much faster, easier and less damaging than fiddling with fingers or a needle-nose pliers when you have multiple slimy fish bouncing around in your lap.

My thought was to keep it small and simple so it's not in the way. The Hobie Outback tackle bucket under the hatch is not very big. I don't like loose clutter rolling around when I'm fishing.

GregAndrew · 03-07-2016, 07:32 PM

The longer/wider tag end is for speed of use and keeping the line in place. The wide end makes it quicker to wrap around your sabiki line. The longer tag end helps keep the sabiki line inside while your bait wiggles.

You wrap the tag end around your sabiki just above the bait. Then you slide it down the sabiki while pulling back and up on the dehooker and pushing forward and down on the sabiki line above (you can substitute left and right for back and forward). The hook will wrap the end of the tool, and continuing to straight up and down will point the hook down. Then a simple jerk motion, with both hands in the same downward direction, should dislodge the barb and free the bait. It should take less than a couple seconds per bait, which can be crucial on the days where you only have it under you a couple times for a short time.

pingpangdang · 03-10-2016, 05:57 PM

I use wooden chopsticks you get from panda express etc. I don't crack them apart so they are stronger.

Once the stick slides down into the inner bend of the hook I hold the mac over the livewell and turn the hook upside down with the chopstick and the fish slides off.

I also debarb the sabiki hooks so the bait slides off quicker and I can hook anything in my yak w/ no worry(no problem getting them to the yak as the bait stays on the hook really well even debarbed)

I can also use the chopstick to push down on a hook that was swallowed near the gut to dehook w/ ease.

For the sabiki itself besides debarbing I use only half...so only 3 sabiki.

For the weight I use a cheap blue and silver jig (something at walmart)...it's heavy and gets the sabiki down fast and it also in my mind triggers the bait to bite the sabiki because it looks like a bigger fish is chasing it's prey.

I also have a hook on the end of the jig and usually get bigger bait on that one.

No problem w/ tangles most of the time as the jig is heavy enough to keep everyone in line.

Free and they float...and if you brought your bento box you don't have to eat w/ your hands!

With the hooks debarbed sometimes I just use my hands...just grab the snell of the hook and turn the hook upside down and they slide right off.

03-07-2016, 12:29 PM	#3
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	Compact size floating sabiki hook removers from wine corks and coat hanger wire. There's a small "L" bend at the butt end and a dab of epoxy on the wire at both ends of the cork. Small enough to conveniently stow in my Outback tackle bucket. Long enough to be comfortable in the hand. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

03-07-2016, 12:38 PM	#4
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Great idea but you should have made the tag end of the loop longer. Because the tag end of the loop is small the sabiki line will slide off of the loop when you try to shake the bait off. Other than that it looks pretty cool. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

03-10-2016, 05:57 PM	#9
pingpangdang Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 228	chopstick sabiki bait remover and dehooker I use wooden chopsticks you get from panda express etc. I don't crack them apart so they are stronger. Once the stick slides down into the inner bend of the hook I hold the mac over the livewell and turn the hook upside down with the chopstick and the fish slides off. I also debarb the sabiki hooks so the bait slides off quicker and I can hook anything in my yak w/ no worry(no problem getting them to the yak as the bait stays on the hook really well even debarbed) I can also use the chopstick to push down on a hook that was swallowed near the gut to dehook w/ ease. For the sabiki itself besides debarbing I use only half...so only 3 sabiki. For the weight I use a cheap blue and silver jig (something at walmart)...it's heavy and gets the sabiki down fast and it also in my mind triggers the bait to bite the sabiki because it looks like a bigger fish is chasing it's prey. I also have a hook on the end of the jig and usually get bigger bait on that one. No problem w/ tangles most of the time as the jig is heavy enough to keep everyone in line. Free and they float...and if you brought your bento box you don't have to eat w/ your hands! With the hooks debarbed sometimes I just use my hands...just grab the snell of the hook and turn the hook upside down and they slide right off. Last edited by pingpangdang; 03-10-2016 at 06:03 PM.

02-09-2016, 07:37 AM	#2
EastLosYaker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: East Los Angeles Posts: 220	Damn Chuck, you store the new outback in the living room? Talk about tlc.

03-07-2016, 07:32 PM	#8
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	The longer/wider tag end is for speed of use and keeping the line in place. The wide end makes it quicker to wrap around your sabiki line. The longer tag end helps keep the sabiki line inside while your bait wiggles. You wrap the tag end around your sabiki just above the bait. Then you slide it down the sabiki while pulling back and up on the dehooker and pushing forward and down on the sabiki line above (you can substitute left and right for back and forward). The hook will wrap the end of the tool, and continuing to straight up and down will point the hook down. Then a simple jerk motion, with both hands in the same downward direction, should dislodge the barb and free the bait. It should take less than a couple seconds per bait, which can be crucial on the days where you only have it under you a couple times for a short time.