Makobob needs HELP - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

makobob · 07-31-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rossman

Under 60 pounds rigged is really going to limit your choices.

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

Zed · 07-31-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

Im sorry its coming down to this Bob. I hope you can sort out something. Id love to have a Steath. The Lodi trip is a pisser. CaboJohn and I have BSd about a roadie up there to demo but its Lodi. Not much surf there for a good test drive.

From my research/input w the Safas n Aussies, they are real fast Ferrari "skis" but that means they arent Cadillacs. You have to be a proactive paddler to utilize their strength(s) coming and going. Theyre meant for a quick shot through the beach break, pull the rods out of the hull and go for a highspeed troll for a couple hours and back in. Good surfski/SOT hybrids. They are also as tempermental as a Ferrari. They arent near as rugged as the milk jugs we drag over rocks. Youll learn to lay glass/carbon sheets eventually. Even just dragging them over sand is more abrasive to the glass composite seams than sheer plastic. At Beluga for instance I drag plastic a lot there but glass/composite? I would overall lift more just carrying my glass baby to the waters edge and then back to camp vs the fully loaded plastic drag to the water.

All that said, I want one and so does John. Its an offshore trolling machine. If you have to go that direction I would love to paddle it but in the end I think plastic is net better for you.

makobob · 07-31-2016, 09:12 PM

Troy, you and John should be able to give it a shot at Lj in a few weeks. The weight of plastic puts me off the water now. And my wheeleze cart works great for PA's and Outbacks over 100 lbs so the composite yak at 60 will be a big savings in work for me. As to composits and epoxies, been there, done that.

With the health problems, YOU KNOW ME. Every day to it's fullest, as long as I can and as hard as possible. And this was not unexpected, just fine tunning for the next year or two. Tight Lines.

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Originally Posted by Zed

Im sorry its coming down to this Bob. I hope you can sort out something. Id love to have a Steath. The Lodi trip is a pisser. CaboJohn and I have BSd about a roadie up there to demo but its Lodi. Not much surf there for a good test drive.

From my research/input w the Safas n Aussies, they are real fast Ferrari "skis" but that means they arent Cadillacs. You have to be a proactive paddler to
utilize their strength(s) coming and going. Theyre meant for a quick shot through the beach break, pull the rods out of the hull and go for a highspeed troll for a couple hours and back in. Good surfski/SOT hybrids. They are also as tempermental as a Ferrari. They arent near as rugged as the milk jugs we drag over rocks. Youll learn to lay glass/carbon sheets eventually. Even just dragging them over sand is more abrasive to the glass composite seams than sheer plastic. At Beluga for instance I drag plastic a lot there but glass/composite? I would overall lift more just carrying my glass baby to the waters edge and then back to camp vs the fully loaded plastic drag to the water.

All that said, I want one and so does John. Its an offshore trolling machine. If you have to go that direction I would love to paddle it but in the end I think plastic is net better for you.

2-Stix · 07-31-2016, 09:43 PM

what about the drop in motors? a few yaks have them as an option now. hobie yes, jackson in 2017.

makobob · 07-31-2016, 10:17 PM

I might be slowly dying, I am not dead! Your solutions ARE still TOO HEAVY. Going lighter and maybe not loosing speed and being the last guy to the bite will be beyond me but I THING NOT. A faster yak will keep me in the pack, Do not need to be in front, just need to get there before the bite shuts down. 5 miles off Asuncion or LJ I can still do, just slower than most. Getting an extra mph will do it and the Stealth Pro Fisha 525 should let me do that, AND not mess up my feet. For me this should be a WIN,Win,win.

AND some lucky person could get a 2015 Hobie Outback to add to their stable. So maybe there will be two winners unless they too sell there yak and three people win. Tight Lines.

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Originally Posted by 2-Stix

what about the drop in motors? a few yaks have them as an option now. hobie yes, jackson in 2017.

buddha · 07-31-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

I think that is a good choice.

rossman · 08-01-2016, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

Ahhhh. I missed the composite part. That explains the price tag too.

Deamon · 08-01-2016, 05:00 AM

Help? There's plenty of people willing and able to get you and your yak to the water. Heck, Sven can put you on one shoulder and your yak on the other. It's the cleaning up after your "accidents" that'll have everyone running...

Jim

summers in kuwait · 08-01-2016, 06:56 AM

Sorry to hear the news Bob.

My father recently lost his big toe, but they saved his leg.
But we are stilly watching the foot.

Before I bought my revo 13, I was leading to towards the following:

Stealth evolution
Viking pro fish reload

I liked the kraken 13.5 for the seat and live bait setup, but the additional weight was a factor. I fractured a couple of vertebrae and had some shoulder issues, so I went with the revo 13. There are days I wish I had a simple, light paddle kayak.

Best of luck on the decision. And very interested to see the stealth on the water.

PapaDave · 08-01-2016, 07:35 AM

Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!

Harry Hill · 08-01-2016, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!

I had both my knees replaced it is so worth it, my problem now is plantars fasciitis , but it won't keep me off the water. As long as I don't have to walk on water it won't be a problem.

makobob · 08-01-2016, 08:55 AM

I hear you Dave, keep the weight down, and just do it as long as you can. And YOU are right, crawl if you have too. To many guy's just give up because they can't be as good as they once were, so how good were they anyway? Tight Lines.

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!

MrPukaShell · 08-01-2016, 08:59 AM

Mako, what rack are you going with? Did you get to check some out? Any thoughts on having one made at a fabrication shop? Bet you could get one built in Mexico on the cheap if you looked around, just a thought.

Holy Mackerel · 08-01-2016, 08:41 AM

Sorry about your health situation. Check out WS Tarpon 100 or 120. I use a Tarpon 100 it supports me at 200lbs. But the 120 paddles much better, pop up seat is nice and convenient too.

08-01-2016, 05:00 AM	#8
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Help? There's plenty of people willing and able to get you and your yak to the water. Heck, Sven can put you on one shoulder and your yak on the other. It's the cleaning up after your "accidents" that'll have everyone running... Jim __________________ Recreational Fisherman's Catch...2% Commercial Fisherman's Catch- 98% Recreational Fishing Kayakers Catch- .00001% "The reality is that the wall was built to keep all Asians ~specifically Japanese and those that think they're japanese~ out of the U.S"

08-01-2016, 06:56 AM	#9
summers in kuwait Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: East County San Diego Posts: 657	Sorry to hear the news Bob. My father recently lost his big toe, but they saved his leg. But we are stilly watching the foot. Before I bought my revo 13, I was leading to towards the following: Stealth evolution Viking pro fish reload I liked the kraken 13.5 for the seat and live bait setup, but the additional weight was a factor. I fractured a couple of vertebrae and had some shoulder issues, so I went with the revo 13. There are days I wish I had a simple, light paddle kayak. Best of luck on the decision. And very interested to see the stealth on the water. Last edited by summers in kuwait; 08-01-2016 at 07:04 AM.

08-01-2016, 07:35 AM	#10
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,474	Sorry to hear about the feet. Your feet, my knees. I will crawl to the launch site if necessary! __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

07-31-2016, 09:43 PM	#4
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	what about the drop in motors? a few yaks have them as an option now. hobie yes, jackson in 2017.

08-01-2016, 08:59 AM	#13
MrPukaShell Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ventura COunty Posts: 521	Mako, what rack are you going with? Did you get to check some out? Any thoughts on having one made at a fabrication shop? Bet you could get one built in Mexico on the cheap if you looked around, just a thought.

08-01-2016, 08:41 AM	#14
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Sorry about your health situation. Check out WS Tarpon 100 or 120. I use a Tarpon 100 it supports me at 200lbs. But the 120 paddles much better, pop up seat is nice and convenient too.