CDFG - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

alanw · 08-26-2016, 08:59 PM

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Getting placed in the domestic terror watch list by the Obama Regime!!!

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Silbaugh4liberty · 08-26-2016, 09:39 PM

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Lol......

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alanw · 08-26-2016, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silbaugh4liberty

Lol......

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Well apparently I'm on the list multiple times already, so what's one more gonna hurt?

Silbaugh4liberty · 08-26-2016, 10:41 PM

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Well apparently I'm on the list multiple times already, so what's one more gonna hurt?

Lol, no kidding. I probably cover at least half the list if not more!!!

#challengejurisdiction

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wiredantz · 08-27-2016, 01:06 AM

I think it's going to come down like this:

Information taken from another site:

If you read the law you will see the language is not legalese, but it is very clear and concise: Fishing is a stated absolute right. Meaning it is irrevocable. You can have free speech without a license, you can go to church without a license, Will you be stopped, harassed and even arrested, YES. Will you prevail in court if you cite you Federally and State protected priveleges, YES. Most cases challenged in this manner get thrown out of court in the interest of justice. There is a key statement that a person must make in court and it requires testosterone: Your Honor, I am here because of what is a clear and flagrant violation of my Federal civil right to freedom from unjust detention, equal protection under the law, and my black letter law State of California constitutional right to Fish. Your honor I remind the court that it is the sworn duty of every officer of this court to uphold and defend the Constitution of the State of California, and that there is no immunity for public officials who knowingly or unknowingly violate the civil and constitutional rights of the citizenry. Further Your Honor, I would like to state that such executive an judicial violations are classified as punishable incompatible activities for which a formal complaint can be filed and action taken against the offender. Your Honor I therefore motion the court to rule a factual finding of innocence and an order to all the parties taking action against me to expunge their records of as required by law under such a ruling. End of Statement. If you have testosterone to stand in court and make such a statement, you will enjoy a lifetime of fishing without a license and all your other rights that your grandfathers fought and died for you to keep. The easiest way about this though is to carry a copy of the constitution on your phone and show it to any game warden who attempts to deny you your absolute right to fish! You'll find that if you are polite, they will succumb, if they don't then start your speech (as stated above) and remind them of their sworn duty and how you will respond with an equal amount of paperwork for them violating your rights.

Saba Slayer · 08-27-2016, 06:23 AM

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA...Now lets see one of you big talkers go without buying a fishing license...please post up photos and a description of your fun time spent in the court system. I'm sure you all bought and signed a fishing license.
By the way that "constitution stuff" worked really good for the lawyers during the MLPA closures...NOT...United Anglers is still paying the lawyers...!
Yea I know....you don't need lawyers and your going to handle it all yourself!
Frank...you seem so sure of your above statement to the court...have you tried it before or is this just something you've read on the internet from another site...?
:roll eyes:
Talk and internet posting is always easy to do...!
Let's see one of you jokers really step up and defend our fishing rights...I predict it won't happen...it will be nothing but HOT AIR once again...!!!!!!!!

Silbaugh4liberty · 08-27-2016, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wiredantz

I think it's going to come down like this:

Information taken from another site:

If you read the law you will see the language is not legalese, but it is very clear and concise: Fishing is a stated absolute right. Meaning it is irrevocable. You can have free speech without a license, you can go to church without a license, Will you be stopped, harassed and even arrested, YES. Will you prevail in court if you cite you Federally and State protected priveleges, YES. Most cases challenged in this manner get thrown out of court in the interest of justice. There is a key statement that a person must make in court and it requires testosterone: Your Honor, I am here because of what is a clear and flagrant violation of my Federal civil right to freedom from unjust detention, equal protection under the law, and my black letter law State of California constitutional right to Fish. Your honor I remind the court that it is the sworn duty of every officer of this court to uphold and defend the Constitution of the State of California, and that there is no immunity for public officials who knowingly or unknowingly violate the civil and constitutional rights of the citizenry. Further Your Honor, I would like to state that such executive an judicial violations are classified as punishable incompatible activities for which a formal complaint can be filed and action taken against the offender. Your Honor I therefore motion the court to rule a factual finding of innocence and an order to all the parties taking action against me to expunge their records of as required by law under such a ruling. End of Statement. If you have testosterone to stand in court and make such a statement, you will enjoy a lifetime of fishing without a license and all your other rights that your grandfathers fought and died for you to keep. The easiest way about this though is to carry a copy of the constitution on your phone and show it to any game warden who attempts to deny you your absolute right to fish! You'll find that if you are polite, they will succumb, if they don't then start your speech (as stated above) and remind them of their sworn duty and how you will respond with an equal amount of paperwork for them violating your rights.

That pretty damn good, I might have to plagiarize that!!! The only thing I would add before that is that I would make sure you're on the record ("you're honor is this a court of record"), if he says yes, then I would then state, " for the record, I reserve ALL RIGHTS, not to be bound by any written or unwritten contracts"! I said this one time, and the judge started clowning on me. Before I left court, I demanded a copy of the court minutes, and guess what, THEY RECORDED ON RECORD, ( Defendant reserves rights)!

After putting them on notice that you're reserving your rights, I would then steal your statement because it's really good, I like it.

I'm going to get going on drafting a motion to dismiss as well. This is something that you would first file in the DA's office, and then file a copy with the clerk of court. And most importantly have your own copy with stamps from each of those two offices. This makes it official when you motion to dismiss, and they HAVE TO address it since your paperwork is filed on record.

Good stuff Wiredantz, I dig it!!!

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Saba Slayer · 08-27-2016, 06:49 AM

OK...so just imagine you figured out how to go fishing without buying a license...now the DFW is cash strapped because no one is buying a license anymore to legally fish...so there is no more cash to hire DFW Wardens to enforce the F & G laws...they have no money for computers, weapons, vehicles, or vessels to protect the resource...DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT COMMON FOLKS WILL BE GOOD PROTECTORS OF THE RESOURCE???
HELL NO... THEY WILL RAPE AND PLUNDER UNTILL THERE ARE ONLY SEA CUCUMBERS AND KELP IN THE OCEAN...HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE "TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS" ?
The amount of poaching that goes on now is unreal...could you imagine it without Wardens?
GET REAL AND QUITE LIVING IN YOUR PRETEND ANARCHY WORLD...!
Please tell me how this will be a better state of affairs than buying a damn license and obeying a few rules to support the resource and habitat...?
No BS...just concrete facts...!

08-27-2016, 01:06 AM	#5
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	I think it's going to come down like this: Information taken from another site: If you read the law you will see the language is not legalese, but it is very clear and concise: Fishing is a stated absolute right. Meaning it is irrevocable. You can have free speech without a license, you can go to church without a license, Will you be stopped, harassed and even arrested, YES. Will you prevail in court if you cite you Federally and State protected priveleges, YES. Most cases challenged in this manner get thrown out of court in the interest of justice. There is a key statement that a person must make in court and it requires testosterone: Your Honor, I am here because of what is a clear and flagrant violation of my Federal civil right to freedom from unjust detention, equal protection under the law, and my black letter law State of California constitutional right to Fish. Your honor I remind the court that it is the sworn duty of every officer of this court to uphold and defend the Constitution of the State of California, and that there is no immunity for public officials who knowingly or unknowingly violate the civil and constitutional rights of the citizenry. Further Your Honor, I would like to state that such executive an judicial violations are classified as punishable incompatible activities for which a formal complaint can be filed and action taken against the offender. Your Honor I therefore motion the court to rule a factual finding of innocence and an order to all the parties taking action against me to expunge their records of as required by law under such a ruling. End of Statement. If you have testosterone to stand in court and make such a statement, you will enjoy a lifetime of fishing without a license and all your other rights that your grandfathers fought and died for you to keep. The easiest way about this though is to carry a copy of the constitution on your phone and show it to any game warden who attempts to deny you your absolute right to fish! You'll find that if you are polite, they will succumb, if they don't then start your speech (as stated above) and remind them of their sworn duty and how you will respond with an equal amount of paperwork for them violating your rights. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

08-27-2016, 06:23 AM	#6
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,871	BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA...Now lets see one of you big talkers go without buying a fishing license...please post up photos and a description of your fun time spent in the court system. I'm sure you all bought and signed a fishing license. By the way that "constitution stuff" worked really good for the lawyers during the MLPA closures...NOT...United Anglers is still paying the lawyers...! Yea I know....you don't need lawyers and your going to handle it all yourself! Frank...you seem so sure of your above statement to the court...have you tried it before or is this just something you've read on the internet from another site...? :roll eyes: Talk and internet posting is always easy to do...! Let's see one of you jokers really step up and defend our fishing rights...I predict it won't happen...it will be nothing but HOT AIR once again...!!!!!!!! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

08-27-2016, 06:49 AM	#8
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,871	OK OK...so just imagine you figured out how to go fishing without buying a license...now the DFW is cash strapped because no one is buying a license anymore to legally fish...so there is no more cash to hire DFW Wardens to enforce the F & G laws...they have no money for computers, weapons, vehicles, or vessels to protect the resource...DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT COMMON FOLKS WILL BE GOOD PROTECTORS OF THE RESOURCE??? HELL NO... THEY WILL RAPE AND PLUNDER UNTILL THERE ARE ONLY SEA CUCUMBERS AND KELP IN THE OCEAN...HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE "TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS" ? The amount of poaching that goes on now is unreal...could you imagine it without Wardens? GET REAL AND QUITE LIVING IN YOUR PRETEND ANARCHY WORLD...! Please tell me how this will be a better state of affairs than buying a damn license and obeying a few rules to support the resource and habitat...? No BS...just concrete facts...! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer Last edited by Saba Slayer; 08-27-2016 at 08:24 AM.