Anybody going out regularly between Malibu and Ventura?

[Denis_Ruso]

Originally Posted by goldenglory18

Dumb question: Why wouldn't someone jump out and grab the bow handle instead and drag it up shore? The quicker you're out of the water, the quicker you are out of the yard sale zone, no?

This is kind of a nuanced and situational.

In a perfect landing you are coming in with forward momentum and stop on the sand with 5-6 seconds to run to the front of the kayak before the next set comes in. So you are able to drag away from the break zone before the next set.

However more often then not, you will hop off while still in 2-4 ft of water and realize that the next set is closer that you thought. Being in water does not allow for a full sprint to the front handle. Even if you do get to the front handle, it is tough to get a very solid grip quickly and when the next wave comes in it will either rip the kayak out of your hand or swing it sideways as you are pulling and cause it to roll( the back end will outrace the front due to incoming water). Grabbing the back of the kayak as the next wave passes allows you to steady the kayak from rolling and hold on to it at a rear pivot point from preventing it from turning parallel to the beach.

Again, this is very situational and is for normal conditions. There are different techniques depending on what kind of waves you are dealing with.

[Cronus]

I am still nursing a broken finger from an attempt in too big of surf at Leo. And that was just from trying to hold my kayak in place in the low surf before getting on. The returns can be intimidating, especially after hearing some of the large waves crash off those rocks. I have a Feelfree Lure 13.5 kayak which is very stable, 36" wide. On the day with the huge waves I never rolled but got pulled back to shore while trying to launch which just wiped me out, was totally out of gas. Had to wait like 30 min before I had the energy to try again. But have been very lucky lately. I will be out there tomorrow trying to stock my freezer with fish. Both Saturday and Sunday look to be very low surf days. Hopefully this will not be the third time in a row that I forget a hat......

And is anyone using bait or just jigs and soft bodies? I usually have some frozen squid out while I am working a jig. I do not have a bait tank so no live bait for me. I will occasionally re-hook a mackerel and send him back out but have not had luck wit that yet. Have some new grubs I want to try along with some lures that have still not seen the water yet.

[ProfessorLongArms]

Originally Posted by Cronus

I am still nursing a broken finger from an attempt in too big of surf at Leo. And that was just from trying to hold my kayak in place in the low surf before getting on. The returns can be intimidating, especially after hearing some of the large waves crash off those rocks. I have a Feelfree Lure 13.5 kayak which is very stable, 36" wide. On the day with the huge waves I never rolled but got pulled back to shore while trying to launch which just wiped me out, was totally out of gas. Had to wait like 30 min before I had the energy to try again. But have been very lucky lately. I will be out there tomorrow trying to stock my freezer with fish. Both Saturday and Sunday look to be very low surf days. Hopefully this will not be the third time in a row that I forget a hat......

And is anyone using bait or just jigs and soft bodies? I usually have some frozen squid out while I am working a jig. I do not have a bait tank so no live bait for me. I will occasionally re-hook a mackerel and send him back out but have not had luck wit that yet. Have some new grubs I want to try along with some lures that have still not seen the water yet.

OUCH. Sorry to hear about the broken finger. I count myself pretty lucky that I walked away with just some scrapes yesterday, as I got in that one spot you're never supposed to be with the kayak between you and a wave.

My setup is looking pretty similar, though I have a live bait tank and a sabiki.
I'm probably going to go out in the afternoon and make a few more dry launches/landings so I'm ready to put some actual tackle and equipment in my boat on Sunday morning. Happy to share the wealth if I can make bait.

[acorad]

Go get 'em guys! My oldest leaves for college on Sunday so no fishing this weekend for me.

Andy

[goldenglory18]

Originally Posted by Denis_Ruso

This is kind of a nuanced and situational.

In a perfect landing you are coming in with forward momentum and stop on the sand with 5-6 seconds to run to the front of the kayak before the next set comes in. So you are able to drag away from the break zone before the next set.

However more often then not, you will hop off while still in 2-4 ft of water and realize that the next set is closer that you thought. Being in water does not allow for a full sprint to the front handle. Even if you do get to the front handle, it is tough to get a very solid grip quickly and when the next wave comes in it will either rip the kayak out of your hand or swing it sideways as you are pulling and cause it to roll( the back end will outrace the front due to incoming water). Grabbing the back of the kayak as the next wave passes allows you to steady the kayak from rolling and hold on to it at a rear pivot point from preventing it from turning parallel to the beach.

Again, this is very situational and is for normal conditions. There are different techniques depending on what kind of waves you are dealing with.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that extra explanation.

You really are good at details and describing stuff. You ever consider being a teacher? LOL

[Denis_Ruso]

Originally Posted by goldenglory18

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that extra explanation.

You really are good at details and describing stuff. You ever consider being a teacher? LOL

Haha. You have to know something to be a teacher and I don't have the patience for children.

I just stick to giving unwanted advise to passersby.

However, I am working on hosting some training opportunities at work. So there's that.

Someone once told me. "If you cant explain it simply, you don't understand it enough to teach it".