Took on the berm!!!! San Diego bay.....fish report. High tide 9am. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

MattRabasco · 02-17-2018, 06:58 AM

What and no pic

? Maybe use a lighter rod and the hook won’t pull at the boat- don’t really get the tuna stick trolling rod set up? Maybe for bounce balling?

MITCHELL · 02-17-2018, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MattRabasco

What and no pic

? Maybe use a lighter rod and the hook won’t pull at the boat- don’t really get the tuna stick trolling rod set up? Maybe for bounce balling?

Tuna rod is for bounce balling....get it.
Pole size had nothing to do with loosening the halibut
The first mackerel on the trap rig ,what ever it was missed both hooks. Second mackerel was bit off

MITCHELL · 02-18-2018, 05:02 AM

No wonder the halibut shook off the hook on the bounce ball rig, not enough hook was in it...maybe going to put an egg sinker or plastic beads in skirt to move hook back.

exfactor · 02-19-2018, 12:03 PM

use 1/0 Owner ST36 in front, and 3/0 in back. Trebles work wayyyy better for that.

MITCHELL · 02-19-2018, 12:57 PM

Good

Hunters Pa · 02-21-2018, 06:52 AM

Yep, need a stouter rod when you are bouncing 8-20 ounces of lead.

I have a 4 foot panga stick I wrapped with a roller stripper and tip just for bouncing on the kayak. Having the line closer to the side of the kayak helps minimize the torque that pedaling/paddling effort needs to compensate for.

I'm just not a successful halibut fisherman on most days

MITCHELL · 02-21-2018, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

Yep, need a stouter rod when you are bouncing 8-20 ounces of lead.

I have a 4 foot panga stick I wrapped with a roller stripper and tip just for bouncing on the kayak. Having the line closer to the side of the kayak helps minimize the torque that pedaling/paddling effort needs to compensate for.

I'm just not a successful halibut fisherman on most days

I have wrapped the propeller more times than I can remember...i fish up to three rods you got to stay focused
and watch your graph for anything that might tangle the bounce ball.

Harry Hill · 02-21-2018, 07:24 AM

I guess I've never used the octopus hooks, that point looks like it would be hard to set. I think the point would be better in line with the rest of the hook. Of course I haven't caught a legal butt yet so what do I know.

Harry Hill · 02-21-2018, 07:27 AM

I googled octopus hooks and none show the point bent over like that. I think yours are flawed. I think if you try to straighten it the tip may break off

MITCHELL · 02-21-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hill

I googled octopus hooks and none show the point bent over like that. I think yours are flawed. I think if you try to straighten it the tip may break off

Think I'll add a treble hook and make it a trap rig to be safe or just use one treble hook

Hunters Pa · 02-22-2018, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHELL

I have wrapped the propeller more times than I can remember...i fish up to three rods you got to stay focused
and watch your graph for anything that might tangle the bounce ball.

Was scratching my head for a bit. When I wrote "that I wrapped" I meant that I built it for bounceballing. I usually bounceball from that stick and have a longer, more sensitive one out the other side with either banana sinker and leader or dropshot further back out of range of the bounceball rig.

Harry Hill · 02-23-2018, 07:05 PM

I stand corrected, but I don't think I'll use them

MITCHELL · 03-10-2018, 04:12 AM

The berm was easier then the sand...reason hardpack.
Plenty of mackerel for no bites, tangled my bounce ball lost my canon ball...wrapped my trolling motor prop with mackerel flys 1/2 hour to cut line lose off prop shaft after removing blades while on the water .time to say adios amigos im sure my spots were hammered by all the silence peeps:spam
And more

:My phone been ringing off the hook by telemarketing tight lines

They say keep Wi-Fi turned off on your cellphone for security reasons.Running the point beats beats sitting around waiting to die

CorvinaLoca · 03-12-2018, 11:28 AM

even though they're mostly on the bottom, they move around a lot. don't get too discouraged - just keep bouncing. id make mental note of that first spot and try to go back there on a similar tide.

imo short bite and missed hookup are terms that are synonymous w/ halibut fishing, especially if you're bit by little ones. if using live bait, i like to let my live bait slide through whatever is holding the weight, so i can let the butt attack and swallow bait. i just have to be quick on the rig as soon as i feel even a light set of taps, drop it into free spool. if i miss it, try again. i've gone back 2 min later and caught fish i just missed. i prefer to fish one rod really carefully than to have 2 or more rods out. and personally, i don't like treble stingers on live bait, but whatever works for you.

of course they're known to pop off at the boat too. shake it off (pun intended) and get back to it.

thanks for post. got me interested again in targeting one of the tastiest fish.

and really cool rig! that'll keep you in shape.

Mr. NiceGuy · 03-10-2018, 11:20 AM

What does taking on "the berm" mean? do you mean the hump next to the sidewalk?

Or is it the name of a fishing area?

I don't think you are referring to the sand berms set up to contain PCB's in the bay, are you?

MITCHELL · 03-10-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

What does "the berm" mean? do you mean the hump next to the sidewalk?

Yes....hump berm mound what ever you want to call it.
I used to use boat launching ramp...dont look like it will be done in the near future.

02-17-2018, 06:58 AM	#1
MattRabasco Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 102	What and no pic? Maybe use a lighter rod and the hook won’t pull at the boat- don’t really get the tuna stick trolling rod set up? Maybe for bounce balling?

02-18-2018, 05:02 AM	#3
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,292	Make it 5 pictures...... No wonder the halibut shook off the hook on the bounce ball rig, not enough hook was in it...maybe going to put an egg sinker or plastic beads in skirt to move hook back. Attached Images __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 02-18-2018 at 05:11 AM.

02-19-2018, 12:57 PM	#5
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,292	Sounds Good __________________ Duke Mitchell

02-21-2018, 07:24 AM	#8
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I guess I've never used the octopus hooks, that point looks like it would be hard to set. I think the point would be better in line with the rest of the hook. Of course I haven't caught a legal butt yet so what do I know. __________________ you can't eat it if you release it

02-21-2018, 07:27 AM	#9
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I googled octopus hooks and none show the point bent over like that. I think yours are flawed. I think if you try to straighten it the tip may break off __________________ you can't eat it if you release it

02-19-2018, 12:03 PM	#4
exfactor Junior Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 20	use 1/0 Owner ST36 in front, and 3/0 in back. Trebles work wayyyy better for that.

02-21-2018, 06:52 AM	#6
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,361	Yep, need a stouter rod when you are bouncing 8-20 ounces of lead. I have a 4 foot panga stick I wrapped with a roller stripper and tip just for bouncing on the kayak. Having the line closer to the side of the kayak helps minimize the torque that pedaling/paddling effort needs to compensate for. I'm just not a successful halibut fisherman on most days

02-23-2018, 07:05 PM	#12
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I stand corrected, but I don't think I'll use them __________________ you can't eat it if you release it

03-10-2018, 04:12 AM	#13
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,292	SOAB......./solo....3/10 return. The berm was easier then the sand...reason hardpack. Plenty of mackerel for no bites, tangled my bounce ball lost my canon ball...wrapped my trolling motor prop with mackerel flys 1/2 hour to cut line lose off prop shaft after removing blades while on the water .time to say adios amigos im sure my spots were hammered by all the silence peeps:spam And more:My phone been ringing off the hook by telemarketing tight lines They say keep Wi-Fi turned off on your cellphone for security reasons.Running the point beats beats sitting around waiting to die Attached Images __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 03-10-2018 at 04:24 AM.

03-12-2018, 11:28 AM	#14
CorvinaLoca Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 129	just keep bouncing even though they're mostly on the bottom, they move around a lot. don't get too discouraged - just keep bouncing. id make mental note of that first spot and try to go back there on a similar tide. imo short bite and missed hookup are terms that are synonymous w/ halibut fishing, especially if you're bit by little ones. if using live bait, i like to let my live bait slide through whatever is holding the weight, so i can let the butt attack and swallow bait. i just have to be quick on the rig as soon as i feel even a light set of taps, drop it into free spool. if i miss it, try again. i've gone back 2 min later and caught fish i just missed. i prefer to fish one rod really carefully than to have 2 or more rods out. and personally, i don't like treble stingers on live bait, but whatever works for you. of course they're known to pop off at the boat too. shake it off (pun intended) and get back to it. thanks for post. got me interested again in targeting one of the tastiest fish. and really cool rig! that'll keep you in shape.

03-10-2018, 11:20 AM	#15
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	What does taking on "the berm" mean? do you mean the hump next to the sidewalk? Or is it the name of a fishing area? I don't think you are referring to the sand berms set up to contain PCB's in the bay, are you? __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise Last edited by Mr. NiceGuy; 03-10-2018 at 11:36 AM.