Children's Pool - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PB fisher · 02-18-2009, 06:32 PM

Good point on the trust being the last will and testament. I agree.

Does the city realize it is called the children's pool?

prowlerdude · 02-18-2009, 07:09 PM

Once again our elected officials refused to make any decision and dumped it on the State. Just like the booze ban (sending it to the voters). Anything remotely controversial that could cost them future votes down the road is taboo.

To vote against the seals - anti green
To vote for the seals - anti children, recreation and business (these nuts are for extending the MLPA to freaking china).

Politicians are only in it for themselves and their futures..

Sorry for the rant

Podaker · 02-18-2009, 09:04 PM

this is not a natural habitat for the seals, before humans built a safe area for their "children" to play mountain lions, bears, wolfs, coyotes, and other predators, would stalk hunt and kill/eat the seals. that is why they normally live on rocks away from harm. why don't the seals hang out at the shores, windansea, blacks, marine st, the cove????? possibly people/predators. (i'm confused)

dgax65 · 02-18-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PB fisher

Good point on the trust being the last will and testament. I agree.

Does the city realize it is called the children's pool?

During the public testimony, I noticed that the seal huggers were very careful to call it Casa Beach instead of Children's Pool. They don't even want to concede that it has been used as a swimming area for children for decades.

cioppino · 03-13-2009, 08:51 AM

We all know that the city voted to keep the seals and amend the trust. Only our La Jolla rep Sherri Lightner wanted to get rid of the pollution and seals. Now we have to hope the Scripps family does what it promised and sues the crap out of our moronic city. Unfortunately its our money not the council members that will be wasted in all this. Anyway this thing is far from over. Just read this in the opinion section. Gives a bit of insight as to where they are going next.
Here is a quote by one of the Seal Huggers Robert Johnson. The group is now going after La Jolla Cove.

"We want La Jolla Cove designated as California sea lion habitat. We want lifeguards to stop chasing the sea lions off the Cove beach in the mornings and we want a rope erected to protect the area of the beach where the sea lions congregate in the mornings.
If the city council is to declare Casa beach as harbor seal habitat, we want the same done at the La Jolla Cove for the California sea lions. We thank Scripps Institution of Oceanography researchers for the help they have given us on this project."

They want it all for their use only. This group is of the same mindset as the MLPA wackos, they do not like fisherman or people for that matter. Its amazing the lies they try and get over on the public. The Srcipps family does not support the use of the Childrens Pool/Casa Beach as a seal rookery. They have threatened to sue the city over this issue, not support it.

The fact that the MLPAs and the Childrens pool issue are coming at us at the same time only shows how organized and motivated these environwackos are. We gotta do more!

Tman · 03-13-2009, 10:08 AM

"Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?"

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh.

Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage.

Under the MMPA indigenous people can hunt seals, walrus etc providing the use the meat and hide. Frequently the meat is eaten locally, the hides are tanned and used to make a number of expensive, and very pretty, waterproof garments. The skulls, tusks and teeth are ivory - this is where current ivory comes from for scrimshaw and other artistic uses - like musical instruments.

Seals, harbor and Stellar, and walrus population in Alaska and Canada are not in any peril. Although big scale harvesting has been stopped - only because of the decline in the fur market - we are close getting to the stage where the government might have to intervine and cull the populations at tax payer expense for the greater good of the animals well being.

What goes around - comes around. People don't like killing seals - so they don't buy seal products. Now your tax money will soon be going to killing seals so they do not overpopulate their habitat. Yup - those tree huggers are one smart group - good thing they don't pay taxes - so they can have a clean conscious.

Here' the link... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1154458AAkgReT

Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit?

dorf · 03-13-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman

"Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?"

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh.

Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage...

Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit?

From reading this I would understand that it is in Alaska only.
If it is legal here in California you would think that someone from Viejas would look at this as a gold mine for the Casino/Outlet Mall. They could open a jewlery shop with all of the ivory harvested in La Jolla. I would buy a pair of sealskin waders. And BBQ Seal on a stick sounds mighty tasty.

Zed · 03-13-2009, 10:30 AM

Not legal "hunting" but legal culling in OR.
http://marinelife.about.com/b/2009/0...-in-oregon.htm

Money talks. The Humane Society is pretty big but they came up short against the salmon lobby and a Fed judge.

edit, to specify the difference. Cp = seals OR = sea lions. But you knew that.

TXyakker · 03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

This stuff just makes me angry.

I'm getting ready to move back to Texas for my next set of orders, and as much as i'm going to miss the fishing in La Jolla chasing

, I'm so happy to get out of this state and away from these kind of people. I just dont get how people become so dumb and brainwashed to think the way they do, I wish natural selection worked a little more in our favor....

I mean, seals/animals are waaaaaaay more important than people, so we should just let them take over where we like to hang out right?

prowlerdude · 03-13-2009, 04:10 PM

Humane Society of the USA has been associated with eco-terrorists. So has the head of the save the seals. Gonna be funny someday when this washes out and all the politicians that cozzied up to them are hung out to dry. Google these kooks...

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm?oid=136

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm?oid=21

http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm?bid=3247

http://arfacts.wordpress.com/2008/04...rting-killers/

03-13-2009, 10:08 AM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Question posed on Yahoo Answers... "Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?" Best Answer - Chosen by Asker I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh. Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage. Under the MMPA indigenous people can hunt seals, walrus etc providing the use the meat and hide. Frequently the meat is eaten locally, the hides are tanned and used to make a number of expensive, and very pretty, waterproof garments. The skulls, tusks and teeth are ivory - this is where current ivory comes from for scrimshaw and other artistic uses - like musical instruments. Seals, harbor and Stellar, and walrus population in Alaska and Canada are not in any peril. Although big scale harvesting has been stopped - only because of the decline in the fur market - we are close getting to the stage where the government might have to intervine and cull the populations at tax payer expense for the greater good of the animals well being. What goes around - comes around. People don't like killing seals - so they don't buy seal products. Now your tax money will soon be going to killing seals so they do not overpopulate their habitat. Yup - those tree huggers are one smart group - good thing they don't pay taxes - so they can have a clean conscious. Here' the link... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1154458AAkgReT Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit? __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

03-13-2009, 10:30 AM	#8
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	Not legal "hunting" but legal culling in OR. http://marinelife.about.com/b/2009/0...-in-oregon.htm Money talks. The Humane Society is pretty big but they came up short against the salmon lobby and a Fed judge. edit, to specify the difference. Cp = seals OR = sea lions. But you knew that. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

02-18-2009, 06:32 PM	#1
PB fisher feeesh Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 61	Good point on the trust being the last will and testament. I agree. Does the city realize it is called the children's pool?

02-18-2009, 07:09 PM	#2
prowlerdude Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clairemont Posts: 116	Once again our elected officials refused to make any decision and dumped it on the State. Just like the booze ban (sending it to the voters). Anything remotely controversial that could cost them future votes down the road is taboo. To vote against the seals - anti green To vote for the seals - anti children, recreation and business (these nuts are for extending the MLPA to freaking china). Politicians are only in it for themselves and their futures.. Sorry for the rant

02-18-2009, 09:04 PM	#3
Podaker Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: la jolla shores Posts: 86	this is not a natural habitat for the seals, before humans built a safe area for their "children" to play mountain lions, bears, wolfs, coyotes, and other predators, would stalk hunt and kill/eat the seals. that is why they normally live on rocks away from harm. why don't the seals hang out at the shores, windansea, blacks, marine st, the cove????? possibly people/predators. (i'm confused)

03-13-2009, 08:51 AM	#5
cioppino Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: La Jolla Posts: 94	We all know that the city voted to keep the seals and amend the trust. Only our La Jolla rep Sherri Lightner wanted to get rid of the pollution and seals. Now we have to hope the Scripps family does what it promised and sues the crap out of our moronic city. Unfortunately its our money not the council members that will be wasted in all this. Anyway this thing is far from over. Just read this in the opinion section. Gives a bit of insight as to where they are going next. Here is a quote by one of the Seal Huggers Robert Johnson. The group is now going after La Jolla Cove. "We want La Jolla Cove designated as California sea lion habitat. We want lifeguards to stop chasing the sea lions off the Cove beach in the mornings and we want a rope erected to protect the area of the beach where the sea lions congregate in the mornings. If the city council is to declare Casa beach as harbor seal habitat, we want the same done at the La Jolla Cove for the California sea lions. We thank Scripps Institution of Oceanography researchers for the help they have given us on this project." They want it all for their use only. This group is of the same mindset as the MLPA wackos, they do not like fisherman or people for that matter. Its amazing the lies they try and get over on the public. The Srcipps family does not support the use of the Childrens Pool/Casa Beach as a seal rookery. They have threatened to sue the city over this issue, not support it. The fact that the MLPAs and the Childrens pool issue are coming at us at the same time only shows how organized and motivated these environwackos are. We gotta do more!

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM	#9
TXyakker Junior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: PB Posts: 26	This stuff just makes me angry. I'm getting ready to move back to Texas for my next set of orders, and as much as i'm going to miss the fishing in La Jolla chasing , I'm so happy to get out of this state and away from these kind of people. I just dont get how people become so dumb and brainwashed to think the way they do, I wish natural selection worked a little more in our favor.... I mean, seals/animals are waaaaaaay more important than people, so we should just let them take over where we like to hang out right?

03-13-2009, 04:10 PM	#10
prowlerdude Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clairemont Posts: 116	Humane Society of the USA has been associated with eco-terrorists. So has the head of the save the seals. Gonna be funny someday when this washes out and all the politicians that cozzied up to them are hung out to dry. Google these kooks... http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm?oid=136 http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm?oid=21 http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm?bid=3247 http://arfacts.wordpress.com/2008/04...rting-killers/