Bait pump placement - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

JrBasser · 04-11-2009, 11:52 AM

You definitely don't want it on your rudder mount. If anything gets caught in it, or if the pump gets stuck in kelp, your screwed.

Hanging it over the side works. It's how the majority of the guys do it and it works very well. It works, its accessible....

Through the scupper is hard to do because you need a primer. You will also either need to prime it everytime the pump is turned off/on, or have a check valve. It's not a bad system if you get it to work out- it can definitely be done. Just a lot more work than I would want to deal with on my way to the grounds. I'm not sure what kayak you have, but the dog food container might even eliminate this as an option if it covers your scuppers.

The cleanest and most efficient way is through the hull of your boat. If your uncomfortable doing the work yourself the guys at OEX are great and will do all of the internal drilling, plumbing and wiring so all you have to do is drop in your tank, push the hose onto the fitting and flip a switch. This way the pump creates no drag, can't get caught up on anything, and the pump is below the water line enough to stear clear of most surface clutter so you won't be sucking up debris. If your handy with a few tools and don't mind doing the work, it's pretty simple to do (i'm actually contemplating doing mine right now. You've motivated me. I'll have pictures up of the install in a few hours.

JrBasser · 04-11-2009, 01:25 PM

Actually, I've decided to actually go fishing tomorrow, and the install will need dry time. i'll do a full write up tomorrow.

Bpcode3 · 04-11-2009, 02:53 PM

Was going through those same decisions a couple of months ago, decided to go with the bilge pump over the side. Didn't want to deal with priming the pump with the aerator. Notice a little drag, not too bad. Makes it easy to set up on my yak, as a self-contained unit.

Used a Dog/Cat food container from Petsmart, rest of tubing/pump/goop from westmarine. Battery/switch/box from Orvac in Fullerton. Had most of the stuff already lying around, rest was around $60.

asystole · 04-11-2009, 05:19 PM

Nice set up BPcode3. Are you a Medic in Buena Park? I work for Riverside City.

Well after talking to Drew down at OEX Oceanside I decided to go with a through the scupper pump. Because of the way the well in the Tarpon is set up and using the pet food container it should set up just like the Hobie tank.

I will take picture and post the build, along with other pictures of my boat as soon as I finish.

Dave

bigbarrels · 04-11-2009, 06:33 PM

how many gallons can the pet food container hold? Looks like a cool set up for a fraction of the price.

asystole · 04-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbarrels

how many gallons can the pet food container hold? Looks like a cool set up for a fraction of the price.

This is the larger 1 that I'm going to use. To the top of the square section is approx. 7.5 gallons. Here's a pic post pump install.

Dave

Bpcode3 · 04-11-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by asystole

Nice set up BPcode3. Are you a Medic in Buena Park?

Am a Medic, private though (BP = my initials), having to put up with being private, until someone starts hiring again, that and teaching EMT, ACLS, Etc. Kayak Fishing hasn't been paying to much latley

Thankful I'm even employed (x 2)

Iceman · 04-12-2009, 07:12 AM

Thru hull rocks! set it up with a 6 volt battery and go all day, super quiet

Bpcode3 · 04-12-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Thru hull rocks! set it up with a 6 volt battery and go all day, super quiet

Andy, does the Thru hull set up work on tanks like the ones posted? Or is that more for built in tanks like the Stealth? Is there any problems with removing the tank when installed thru hull?

Grego · 04-14-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Thru hull rocks! set it up with a 6 volt battery and go all day, super quiet

What he said.... I've tried all those ways over the years, easiest, simplest and cleanest is to buy a thru-hull pump and be done with it, they aren't expensive $25 or so almost anywhere. You should remember to flush out the saltwater when you're rinsing the rest of your gear off also. All you gotta do is put a garden hose to the intake or exit and let the water flush out the opposite end, rinses the tube, pump, and fittings of the bad salt deposits.

One of the great things about this is that it is so easy to remove if you get something jammed in it (which I haven't since I got an awesome screen on the intake). These things are made to come a part to replace or take crap out of it, genius that Attwood mfg is!! The strainer I made is just plastic for a plastic lid or milk carton or something plastic....I can't frik'n remember. Used a 1.5" hole maker thingy and screwed it in with these thin small SS screws.

You might want to put the on/off switch on the box itself or in the bag depending on whether it is accessible to you on the water. You only turn it on once and turn it off once, so it's no big deal. Unless you like to fook around with the bait and want to constantly play with the switch to make them jump

. I learned to keep it clean on the deck and less wiring running around in your hull to a switch that could rust or get knocked off.

BpCode3 this was done on an X-13 http://bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showt...ighlight=grego

04-12-2009, 07:12 AM	#8
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	Thru hull rocks! set it up with a 6 volt battery and go all day, super quiet __________________

04-11-2009, 11:52 AM	#1
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	You definitely don't want it on your rudder mount. If anything gets caught in it, or if the pump gets stuck in kelp, your screwed. Hanging it over the side works. It's how the majority of the guys do it and it works very well. It works, its accessible.... Through the scupper is hard to do because you need a primer. You will also either need to prime it everytime the pump is turned off/on, or have a check valve. It's not a bad system if you get it to work out- it can definitely be done. Just a lot more work than I would want to deal with on my way to the grounds. I'm not sure what kayak you have, but the dog food container might even eliminate this as an option if it covers your scuppers. The cleanest and most efficient way is through the hull of your boat. If your uncomfortable doing the work yourself the guys at OEX are great and will do all of the internal drilling, plumbing and wiring so all you have to do is drop in your tank, push the hose onto the fitting and flip a switch. This way the pump creates no drag, can't get caught up on anything, and the pump is below the water line enough to stear clear of most surface clutter so you won't be sucking up debris. If your handy with a few tools and don't mind doing the work, it's pretty simple to do (i'm actually contemplating doing mine right now. You've motivated me. I'll have pictures up of the install in a few hours.

04-11-2009, 01:25 PM	#2
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	Actually, I've decided to actually go fishing tomorrow, and the install will need dry time. i'll do a full write up tomorrow.

04-11-2009, 02:53 PM	#3
Bpcode3 Angler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 69	Was going through those same decisions a couple of months ago, decided to go with the bilge pump over the side. Didn't want to deal with priming the pump with the aerator. Notice a little drag, not too bad. Makes it easy to set up on my yak, as a self-contained unit. Used a Dog/Cat food container from Petsmart, rest of tubing/pump/goop from westmarine. Battery/switch/box from Orvac in Fullerton. Had most of the stuff already lying around, rest was around $60.

04-11-2009, 05:19 PM	#4
asystole Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 48	Nice set up BPcode3. Are you a Medic in Buena Park? I work for Riverside City. Well after talking to Drew down at OEX Oceanside I decided to go with a through the scupper pump. Because of the way the well in the Tarpon is set up and using the pet food container it should set up just like the Hobie tank. I will take picture and post the build, along with other pictures of my boat as soon as I finish. Dave

04-11-2009, 06:33 PM	#5
bigbarrels Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vista Posts: 1,111	how many gallons can the pet food container hold? Looks like a cool set up for a fraction of the price.