LJ - 5/01 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 05-01-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by erinoo

Yea they made a mistake, luckily no one else ever does. They are only dumb bell cops when you don't need them.....

You say that like Cops actually do something for You....
-- Beside causing you grief, or wrecking your life for the same stuff they do themselves. LoL
Thats how it goes for the Large majority.

Most are hypocrites who collect a paycheck from your tax dollars, nothing more.

A Gun, and a Badge, and a License to steal all you want.

Don't kid yourself, I know more about the inner workings of Police than most people can ever imagine, as my office was stationed next to the Chief's Office.

-scallywag- · 05-01-2009, 04:27 PM

of course there are bad apples, but if you put things in perspective, our police force is great and we are so very lucky to live here...thoughout the whole ordeal i was never in fear for my life, or that any of my property would be taken, sure it was a little frustating, but had i been in mexico, things would have been much more exciting.....it was a simple mistake on their part....AND I DON'T HATE COPS, I JUST HATE GETTING BUSTED WHEN I MAKE THE DECISION TO BREAK A LAW !!!!

Holy Mackerel · 05-01-2009, 04:31 PM

I don't dislike cops either, my two brothers in law are police officers. You answered a lot of my questions with your testimnoy above. Still not sure why they needed to search you, and the sign didn't clear up their lack of knowledge of the boat ramp.

boogieman · 05-02-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by -scallywag-

of course there are bad apples, but if you put things in perspective, our police force is great and we are so very lucky to live here...thoughout the whole ordeal i was never in fear for my life, or that any of my property would be taken, sure it was a little frustating, but had i been in mexico, things would have been much more exciting.....it was a simple mistake on their part....AND I DON'T HATE COPS, I JUST HATE GETTING BUSTED WHEN I MAKE THE DECISION TO BREAK A LAW !!!!

Ive live in mexico, for 37 years, never had any problems, but seen a lot of foreing "visitors", transporting drugs, fire arms, filming, porn videos and involved in pederast acts, geting caught and then traing to brive cops and end up cryng that mexico is a bad place, as i say i never had my licence plate stolen or broke in my car an stealiong aniting, wen you want to come to Ensenada and fish give me a call i am pretty shure your change your mind obout Mexico, sorry for my riting i hope you understand.

fishchaser25 · 05-02-2009, 01:56 PM

JUST AN FYI. THE B.A.C. ON THE WATER IS .04 WHERE ON LAND IT IS .08 SO BE VERY CAREFUL OUT THERE. & YES THEY CAN GIVE YOU A DUI FOR KAYAKING WITH A B.A.C. OF .04

nmbrinkman · 05-01-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy V

Don't kid yourself, I know more about the inner workings of Police than most people can ever imagine, as my office was stationed next to the Chief's Office.

C'mon... So that makes you an expert. Leave the junk out of it. You only hear the bad things which leads you to believe that's the rule, not the exception.

I too see patrol cars making lane changes without a signal, going just as fast as the citizens they pulled over the day before, not stopping completely at stop lights/stop signs (I got a video red light violation for almost $400 a couple of years ago too). But the bottom line is it's a thankless job and when we really need them they'll be there. I have also been hassled at the launch from a squad car parked on the boardwalk. I gased it on the way out so I didn't get stuck in the loose stuff where the sand meets the asphault. Cop thought I was screwing around and I explained my case. He understood and sent me on my way.

For a broken window and some stolen change they're not going to come out. Unless there's an officer around the corner they're not going to make it in time to stop anything. Why send an officer to come take a report when you can call one in over the phone. Get an alarm or don't keep anything in your car or both. I too have also been a victim of a smash and grab. Even though there was nothing in my car other than a carseat (no change, cd's, sunglasses...nada). Now I'm more vigilant and don't have any problem addressing the issue myself. You have the right to protect your own property.

And for the comment about not being happy with the service your getting for your tax dollars. Would you do what they are supposed to do for what they make? Not saying it's right to be a shitbird PO and as a matter of fact I find it dispicable. But I know it's not the majority. You want to complain about the police? Move to TJ.

You have the right to file a complaint. I would suggest you do so -Scallywag-. But I think the peanut gallery could leave out the cop bashing. Remember that Crime pays more than to protect and serve.

bellcon · 05-01-2009, 05:14 PM

Podaker Said:

Quote:

I live about six blocks from the boat launch

now I hate you!

Just Kidding Podaker...

signed,
the jealous kayak fisherman
who lives about 2 hours from the boat launch

dsafety · 05-01-2009, 07:02 PM

This has become a scary discussion. Some of you say you hate the cops. That is not a reasonable opinion. Yes some may make a mistake now and then and some may be less than professional at times. Most of the time, however, they do their jobs, (a difficult one by the way), with the best interests of the public in their hearts.

As Scallywag reported, once the Seargent showed up, he set these rookies striaght. The Seargent was probably embarrased that these guys did not know the local laws and I suspect that these officers got an earful back at the shop. I bet they will not make that mistake again.

IMHO, Scallyway handled things the best way he could. The net result was no harm, no foul.

Take a chill pill guys.

Bob

T Bone · 05-01-2009, 07:16 PM

You can definitely get a DUI on a bicycle...

Shorty · 05-01-2009, 07:43 PM

I am with the cops on this one,,every one knows the yakkers at LJ carry bombs and weapons of mass destruction and they need to be stopped and searched regurely

Not to worry those these guys are busy booking people for walking on foot paths at the moment.

herefishyfishy! · 05-01-2009, 11:36 PM

Both my brothers in laws are cops also...they are both dueches in my opinion...just saying...

bigbarrels · 05-01-2009, 11:53 PM

Now I'm going to keep some donuts in my vehicle.....just in case

Holy Mackerel · 05-02-2009, 06:22 AM

This thread has gone stupid quick, someone with power please shut it down. I am all for free speach, but all our websites are being watched by enviros, etc. We as kayak fishermen do not need to portray ourselves in this manner, esp when things can get taken out of context, and used against us. If you do not think it will be used against us, then you need to attend an MLPA meeting.

Scallywag, sorry for derailing your thread, I feel responsible for that.

Everyone please stop responding to this thread.

Holy Mackerel · 05-01-2009, 05:18 PM

Ok, this thread is deteriorating. Being a police officer is thankless, I know my brothers are good men, and I could never do their job, NO WAY! Just like all professions, there are good, and bad individuals.

Let's get back to fishing...

Tman · 05-01-2009, 05:37 PM

The real problem is that any time they unload their ammo on someone who deserves it, they gotta worry about getting scrutinized for doing their job, admin review, 2 weeks desk duty...

I think they should have an 'Ooops' Clause...

Somebody points a gun at them, brandishes a weapon in a threatening manner, a child molester, wife beater, etc., if their gun discharges and they say 'Ooops', it's all good.

"Uh, your Honor, I did say 'Ooops' and my partner and some other witnesses heard me."

"Is this true?"

"Yes, your Honor, I did hear the officer in question say 'Ooops' "

"Alrighty then...whoa, look at the time. Court adjourned."

erinoo · 05-01-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V

You say that like Cops actually do something for You....
-- Beside causing you grief, or wrecking your life for the same stuff they do themselves. LoL
Thats how it goes for the Large majority.

Most are hypocrites who collect a paycheck from your tax dollars, nothing more.

A Gun, and a Badge, and a License to steal all you want.

Don't kid yourself, I know more about the inner workings of Police than most people can ever imagine, as my office was stationed next to the Chief's Office.

Hmmm...sounds like you may have been in the pokie a few times...you really are an expert..Sure there are bad cops, just like there are bad docotors, attorneys and even fisherman, but most of the ones I know are stand-up guys, with more integrity than, well I won't say. Like someone else said, TJ is always an option......Hey lets just go fishin.....

Billy V · 05-01-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by erinoo

Hmmm...sounds like you may have been in the pokie a few times...you really are an expert..Sure there are bad cops, just like there are bad docotors, attorneys and even fisherman, but most of the ones I know are stand-up guys, with more integrity than, well I won't say. Like someone else said, TJ is always an option......Hey lets just go fishin.....

Not in the pokie, but sure ground up a few bad cops that thought they were above the Law.
I didn't say they were all bad news, but the ones that are quickly destroy the confidence of the public and undermine the system of laws.

I don't know about being an expert, but I am good at what I do.
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Chris I'm sure your brothers are good people.

Tman · 05-01-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy V

Chris I'm sure your brothers are good people.

My little sis is a cop in PG County...look that one up...

Still can't believe they let her have a gun, much less give her bullets.

Cops, Firefighters, Nurses, EMT's, and Teachers...underpaid.

PS - No, I will not set you up with my sister...dumbass...sorry, old habit...

05-02-2009, 01:56 PM	#5
fishchaser25 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Riverside Posts: 97	JUST AN FYI. THE B.A.C. ON THE WATER IS .04 WHERE ON LAND IT IS .08 SO BE VERY CAREFUL OUT THERE. & YES THEY CAN GIVE YOU A DUI FOR KAYAKING WITH A B.A.C. OF .04 __________________ Fishing is not a hobby! It's a way of life!

05-01-2009, 07:16 PM	#9
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	You can definitely get a DUI on a bicycle... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

05-01-2009, 07:43 PM	#10
Shorty Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Perth, Wild West, Australia Posts: 65	I am with the cops on this one,,every one knows the yakkers at LJ carry bombs and weapons of mass destruction and they need to be stopped and searched regurely Not to worry those these guys are busy booking people for walking on foot paths at the moment. __________________ Proudly sponsored by Team No Fish and Instant Noodles Highly respected member of T.A.A (Tackle Addicts Annonymous)

05-01-2009, 11:36 PM	#11
herefishyfishy! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: La Mesa Posts: 154	Both my brothers in laws are cops also...they are both dueches in my opinion...just saying... __________________ "There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot."

05-01-2009, 05:37 PM	#15
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	The real problem is that any time they unload their ammo on someone who deserves it, they gotta worry about getting scrutinized for doing their job, admin review, 2 weeks desk duty... I think they should have an 'Ooops' Clause... Somebody points a gun at them, brandishes a weapon in a threatening manner, a child molester, wife beater, etc., if their gun discharges and they say 'Ooops', it's all good. "Uh, your Honor, I did say 'Ooops' and my partner and some other witnesses heard me." "Is this true?" "Yes, your Honor, I did hear the officer in question say 'Ooops' " "Alrighty then...whoa, look at the time. Court adjourned." __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

05-01-2009, 04:27 PM	#2
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	of course there are bad apples, but if you put things in perspective, our police force is great and we are so very lucky to live here...thoughout the whole ordeal i was never in fear for my life, or that any of my property would be taken, sure it was a little frustating, but had i been in mexico, things would have been much more exciting.....it was a simple mistake on their part....AND I DON'T HATE COPS, I JUST HATE GETTING BUSTED WHEN I MAKE THE DECISION TO BREAK A LAW !!!!

05-01-2009, 04:31 PM	#3
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	I don't dislike cops either, my two brothers in law are police officers. You answered a lot of my questions with your testimnoy above. Still not sure why they needed to search you, and the sign didn't clear up their lack of knowledge of the boat ramp.

05-01-2009, 07:02 PM	#8
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	This has become a scary discussion. Some of you say you hate the cops. That is not a reasonable opinion. Yes some may make a mistake now and then and some may be less than professional at times. Most of the time, however, they do their jobs, (a difficult one by the way), with the best interests of the public in their hearts. As Scallywag reported, once the Seargent showed up, he set these rookies striaght. The Seargent was probably embarrased that these guys did not know the local laws and I suspect that these officers got an earful back at the shop. I bet they will not make that mistake again. IMHO, Scallyway handled things the best way he could. The net result was no harm, no foul. Take a chill pill guys. Bob

05-01-2009, 11:53 PM	#12
bigbarrels Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vista Posts: 1,111	Now I'm going to keep some donuts in my vehicle.....just in case

05-02-2009, 06:22 AM	#13
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	This thread has gone stupid quick, someone with power please shut it down. I am all for free speach, but all our websites are being watched by enviros, etc. We as kayak fishermen do not need to portray ourselves in this manner, esp when things can get taken out of context, and used against us. If you do not think it will be used against us, then you need to attend an MLPA meeting. Scallywag, sorry for derailing your thread, I feel responsible for that. Everyone please stop responding to this thread.

05-01-2009, 05:18 PM	#14
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Ok, this thread is deteriorating. Being a police officer is thankless, I know my brothers are good men, and I could never do their job, NO WAY! Just like all professions, there are good, and bad individuals. Let's get back to fishing...