Just got an email - LJ Closure! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Matt · 07-01-2009, 08:07 AM

Wow so I am banned?? hahahaha Rad!!! I wanna see someone tell me I can't fish LJ cuz I got stuck at work until 8pm on my birthday and couldn't attend a meeting that would be fun!

Fellas if you feel your doing your part smile and sit back and know that your doing your part! If you have to miss a meeting because you were stuck at work until 830pm or you can't because of family obligations or just obligations in general that's OK! I attended several meetings even as far as Oxnard, I have sent money, I have written letters etc... I don't think Billy or Tman or Tyler or Chris or myself et.al meant any harm or meant to intimidate you, they are just trying to raise awareness that is all. The "bully" tactics are just a way to bring attention to the issue I doubt that any one of these guys is hating on any fellow fisherman because he missed a meeting especially if it was due to family or work or just not being able to drive 3 hours.

Do what you can and it will be appreciated, if you can do more than you are currently doing...try and do it. Malibu Johnny if you feel your doing what you can, realize that the comment wasn't directed to you or anyone in particular it was more a general statement to try and motivate!! No harm was intended I am sure by any party. To everyone in general please don't stop your efforts in any form no matter how small or how big it all helps!!

Now smile, write a letter and ditch work and go get some fish!!!

gary sullivan · 07-01-2009, 08:35 AM

Matt, you always put a bad situation in it's proper perspective. Kudos to you.

tylerdurden · 07-01-2009, 09:08 AM

Thanks Matt. Well said.

What some missed in the posts is we are trying to get people to take notice and get involved. Too many fisherman are too apathetic right now when they really need to be involved. Complaining after the closures are done won't get us anywhere. We need to add our constructive comments now, especially at events like this where they specifically ask for our participation.

Happy Birthday Matt. I wouldn't want to go through that open house on my birthday either.

DESTROYER · 07-01-2009, 10:35 AM

Happy Birthday Matty

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Your not allowed to fish LJ anymore. Work is no excuse

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Moy-Moy

bigderel · 07-01-2009, 12:28 PM

The kayak and sprearo contigent continues to be the one of (if not THE) most well-represented faction at these meetings as far as I can tell. Threads like this are why. Billy did not look like a bully to me...but you never know.

Keep it up but if the numbers that could be there were there - well, it would go ten times more in our favor. For those attending these workshops up north - they are EASY.

There will be two types of forms: one general comments form & proposal/location specific ones. Be very specific & constructive with your comments. If you must, vent a little but give everyone something to work with. Try and stay within the guidelines that they must adhere too, and voice your opinion on the areas that matter most to you.

Type this all out before you go. My hand practically seized up I'm so used to a keyboard. Staple it to the comments form and submit. If you are short on time you can be in & out in just a few minutes, but I encourage you to talk to the reps...for both sides. There is a lot of middle ground to be won.

cabojohn · 07-01-2009, 12:38 PM

Laguna is TONIGHT.

Holy Mackerel · 07-01-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigderel

There will be two types of forms: one general comments form & proposal/location specific ones. Be very specific & constructive with your comments. If you must, vent a little but give everyone something to work with. Try and stay within the guidelines that they must adhere too, and voice your opinion on the areas that matter most to you.

If you are short on time you can be in & out in just a few minutes, but I encourage you to talk to the reps...for both sides. There is a lot of middle ground to be won.

This is an excellent advice for the people shore on time, I am cutting and pasting it on the northern sites. I recommend talking with as many people and "pitch" kayak fishing, and its launch/safety constraints, low impact, etc, etc.... However, if you seriously only have a 5 minutes, you can just drop off a written/typed statement.

chris

Billy V · 07-01-2009, 03:05 PM

The RSG Members want to speak with you.

-In most cases they are accommodating and strive to reach a middle ground that everyone can live with.
That was my experience last night after speaking with a few RSG Members.
Not everyone, but certainly a few.

Remember, these are the people that are drawing the Maps, and cast the Votes.
Its my advice to concentrate your efforts with the attending RSG Members. Especially members who represent Maps that affect your area.

Kayak Fisherman and Spearos have been recognized as a standout group of respectful and conservationist minded people. It is along these lines where we must continue.

One RSG Member at a time.

07-01-2009, 08:07 AM	#1
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	Wow so I am banned?? hahahaha Rad!!! I wanna see someone tell me I can't fish LJ cuz I got stuck at work until 8pm on my birthday and couldn't attend a meeting that would be fun! Fellas if you feel your doing your part smile and sit back and know that your doing your part! If you have to miss a meeting because you were stuck at work until 830pm or you can't because of family obligations or just obligations in general that's OK! I attended several meetings even as far as Oxnard, I have sent money, I have written letters etc... I don't think Billy or Tman or Tyler or Chris or myself et.al meant any harm or meant to intimidate you, they are just trying to raise awareness that is all. The "bully" tactics are just a way to bring attention to the issue I doubt that any one of these guys is hating on any fellow fisherman because he missed a meeting especially if it was due to family or work or just not being able to drive 3 hours. Do what you can and it will be appreciated, if you can do more than you are currently doing...try and do it. Malibu Johnny if you feel your doing what you can, realize that the comment wasn't directed to you or anyone in particular it was more a general statement to try and motivate!! No harm was intended I am sure by any party. To everyone in general please don't stop your efforts in any form no matter how small or how big it all helps!! Now smile, write a letter and ditch work and go get some fish!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

07-01-2009, 09:08 AM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Thanks Matt. Well said. What some missed in the posts is we are trying to get people to take notice and get involved. Too many fisherman are too apathetic right now when they really need to be involved. Complaining after the closures are done won't get us anywhere. We need to add our constructive comments now, especially at events like this where they specifically ask for our participation. Happy Birthday Matt. I wouldn't want to go through that open house on my birthday either. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

07-01-2009, 10:35 AM	#4
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Happy Birthday Matty. Your not allowed to fish LJ anymore. Work is no excuse. Moy-Moy

07-01-2009, 08:35 AM	#2
gary sullivan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: spring valley Posts: 192	Matt, you always put a bad situation in it's proper perspective. Kudos to you.

07-01-2009, 12:28 PM	#5
bigderel UberMember Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On the water Posts: 71	The kayak and sprearo contigent continues to be the one of (if not THE) most well-represented faction at these meetings as far as I can tell. Threads like this are why. Billy did not look like a bully to me...but you never know. Keep it up but if the numbers that could be there were there - well, it would go ten times more in our favor. For those attending these workshops up north - they are EASY. There will be two types of forms: one general comments form & proposal/location specific ones. Be very specific & constructive with your comments. If you must, vent a little but give everyone something to work with. Try and stay within the guidelines that they must adhere too, and voice your opinion on the areas that matter most to you. Type this all out before you go. My hand practically seized up I'm so used to a keyboard. Staple it to the comments form and submit. If you are short on time you can be in & out in just a few minutes, but I encourage you to talk to the reps...for both sides. There is a lot of middle ground to be won.

07-01-2009, 12:38 PM	#6
cabojohn PROBATION Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 657	Laguna is TONIGHT.

07-01-2009, 03:05 PM	#8
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	The RSG Members want to speak with you. -In most cases they are accommodating and strive to reach a middle ground that everyone can live with. That was my experience last night after speaking with a few RSG Members. Not everyone, but certainly a few. Remember, these are the people that are drawing the Maps, and cast the Votes. Its my advice to concentrate your efforts with the attending RSG Members. Especially members who represent Maps that affect your area. Kayak Fisherman and Spearos have been recognized as a standout group of respectful and conservationist minded people. It is along these lines where we must continue. One RSG Member at a time.