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Old 08-14-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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Lapis 1 now covers Scripps pier to Torrey pines! CLOSED TO FISHING!!!

Prime Homeguard YT grounds, this is no secret, many of you had your first BIG YT up there this year, hope you come to the MLPA meeting sept 10th to speak out, and save that area. It is important to us kayak fishermen. It is short paddle, close inshore for safety!
This means Death to Kayak Fishing. A blatant theft of Your Fishing Rights.
-Please don't let the MLPA kick your teeth out.

Attend the Final Meetings and speak up for yourself.

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Old 08-14-2009, 04:05 PM   #2
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Paul, is there any way we can get the updated round 3 proposals in marine map, or google earth before the public comment September 10? Or are they still considered work in progress and won't be updated until they are finalized after the meetings? Or can we get the lat/long of the proposed boundaries even if we can't get them on a computer?

I may attend September 9th to get a feel for how things are going.
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Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps.

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Old 08-15-2009, 10:17 AM   #3
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Paul, is there any way we can get the updated round 3 proposals in marine map, or google earth before the public comment September 10? Or are they still considered work in progress and won't be updated until they are finalized after the meetings? Or can we get the lat/long of the proposed boundaries even if we can't get them on a computer?
The only way to be sure you know what the RSG workgroup proposals look like is to be in the room for the Sept 9 RSG work session. Going on the timeline used for rounds 1 and 2, the new maps will probably not be viewable to the public for a solid week or two following Sept 10. Personally, I can only view Workgroup 2 - and that took a full week following the recent Carlsbad meeting.

If it will be of any value to the RSG, the public comment period should be scheduled the morning of the first day before the work session, or on the second day before the RSG starts its last plenary session. Please consider a proactive stance - air concerns to Kelly Sayce and initiative executives ASAP.

MJ and I will be present in Workgroups 1 and 2 - that's if nothing happens to us in the meantime. A drunk driver took out MJ's car the night of the last session. Fortunately he wasn't in it but the incident kept him out of the meeting. I strongly suggest that you get with other key communicators to coordinate eyes on each of the groups.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:29 PM   #4
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I've bitten my tongue for a long time now ever since I recognized Paul's point, it just boggles my mind and once again questions the fairness of this process.

I have an interview with another local paper, and that same point is at the top of my discussion.

In local governments, when seeking public comment and input in a workshop setting, another workshop is conducted 1-2 weeks later taking those ideas and then presenting the pros/cons of those ideas. Most of the time the public provides ideas that are just plain crazy, some provide ideas that would have been great if it wasn't for some type of conflict with a local/state/federal law or sometimes it just isn't cost efficient, and some provide ideas that staff incorporates fully or partially. Nonetheless, we hold follow-up workshops that explains the pros and cons of ALL public input in either verbal or written format. I have no idea what type of public input process this MLPA is conducting.....with all these degrees floating around it seems none of them took Public Administration 101.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:13 AM   #5
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Yeah, lets have the last public comment for the RSG members after the last meeting. Makes perfect sense to me . Comment on the maps afterward they are done, not before when we might be able to help mold them.

Would we expect anything less based on the way they have been running things though . Doesn't matter, I'll be there.

What we are doing as kayak fishermen is working. At this point in San Diego we have done very well considering. Let's not screw it up now.
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:09 PM   #6
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Yeah, lets have the last public comment for the RSG members after the last meeting. Makes perfect sense to me . Comment on the maps afterward they are done, not before when we might be able to help mold them.

Would we expect anything less based on the way they have been running things though . Doesn't matter, I'll be there.

What we are doing as kayak fishermen is working. At this point in San Diego we have done very well considering. Let's not screw it up now.
Maybe the governor could appoint a few more BRTF members to the fish and game commission before the final votes are taken to close the entire world to fishing.
KY Jelly notwithstanding.

I believe it is imperative to contact the I Team Members ahead of time and tell them that Public Comments Need to be Heard Before the RSG Members Draw Any Maps.
-Dumb it down for them.

So the RSG Members may consider and implement the wants and needs of the Tax Paying Public, and All Citizens of the State of Kollyfornya.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:28 PM   #7
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